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There were some surprises in the June Torex auction, with the error coins. Bigger errors that I thought would fetch good money, didn't... and smaller errors did surprisingly well. This one was sold quite cheap, I am surprised a few collectors I know did not bid on it (I have one already): http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...tion/lot/417(Now for sale on ebay at 10x the hammer price... lol, good luck) Mike's 1976 cap and three coins struck by that cap, did not fetch what I thought it might: http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...tion/lot/4331975 5c struck with counterbrockage cap (first strike) was extremely cheap, and a very rare combination of errors (this is a mint state coin, not AU as the auctioneer stated): http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...tion/lot/432Super deal on this one - a tougher error, already in a PCGS holder (which is $80 of the price): http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...tion/lot/401This one stole the show - I suspect in a PCGS holder at Heritage, this would be a $1800 error. I bid aggressively on this one, but not aggressive enough: http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...tion/lot/447Most surprising to me... this is an error that I have several dates in George VI 1-cent coins, I never paid more than half that hammer, and this one is quite cruddy: http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...tion/lot/407"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I'm thinking these are deliberate "errors", not actual mistakes ?
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All those are legit striking errors. Coins struck prior to 1977 left the mint in bags, not rolls, especially coins struck at the mint's facility in Hull. It is quite easy to find things like die caps and the like from the mid 1960s to the early 1980s.
The 1967 error would be the most suspect, as there were shenanigans going on at the mint in 1967 (double struck 50c and dollar coins).
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I know who got that multiple punches penny, got it for a steal!
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Muhahaha.
I don't wanna sell the 1980 multi strike. I wanna keep it.
I'm just showing off lol
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i love the bobcat on a dime error..very nice coin..
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The 1963 is not possible. first strike would have to be an off centre counter brockage . This is true, the collar edge would not be present if indeed the first strike was created from a die. (Also looks like multiple counter brockage strikes on reverse) and if in fact The first strike(s) were a counter brockage(s) -- the details have to be larger than the devices a die struck coin of this issue would exhibit.. the obverse, the underlying letters from a first strike are too small, (by too small I mean smaller than letters on a nickel!)and the first strike is some what centered compared to first strike off centre reverse. Also The devices still present from the first strike should be flat or obliterated. But this is not a vise job, because what we're seeing here was struck onto the blank before the final strike? Unless someone has dies and a die press? What is going on? never ever viewed a coin like that. And the 1965 only the obverse shows,any evidence of being "double struck". would hate to own those. Previous owner must be happy.  Edited by Alan
07/09/2016 02:18 am
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A lot of pressure needed to strike nickel. Sure, Soft dies and a press of sorts, though the final strike looks like,a genuine strike? Except for not obliterated previous strike features
I hope they don't start rolling these out of China ugh. Someone should let the auction house know.
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Here you can see the year and the D.G on a 63 obverse, so thats where I got the 1968 from. Either way how ever it was fashioned it can't be legit..IMO You can also see the queens crown.  |
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I just emailed TCNC. This is bull! It's definitely a 1968 strike underneath it!! Argh!! Here's another image  Does anyone think this could be legit in any way? Edited by XWLCoins
07/09/2016 1:40 pm
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All is well that ends well! :) I can't believe people consign falsified coins.. So upsetting to know that even renown auctions sometimes can not be bid on with complete confidence..
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Both Geoffery Bell and Colonial Acres auctions usually consult someone to validate and describe their errors... I am unaware if TCNC does this as well...
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This is what a legit nickel composition 5c, double struck (flip struck in collar), looks like. Ex-Marshall collection... When it comes to double struck coins, the first place I look is in the devices (raised elements of the coin). http://www.PCGS.com/cert/%2029316769"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Thats a nice one Spp, I think the raised elements is where a soft die (depending on its composition) mostly fails and is absorbed by the softness of the metal as opposed to the fields and flatter areas. Both the coins you referred to have the same look and IMO the other one is more than likely fake too.
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