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Flag Error 2015 25 Cent Piece

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 Posted 07/07/2016  11:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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Hi, I was reading the new RCNA journal and came upon an article by Henry Nienhuis. In it he claims that there are at least 3 different 25 cent coloured flag coins depending on the amount of shading.

He describes the errors as follows:

"Most likely caused by the ink not properly filling the small dots in the plate so that the image transferred was either made up of; fewer much smaller dots resulting in lighter shadowing; or larger over-filled dots- resulting in darker shadowing"

He describes this as a printing error. I have checked my several examples and it turns out I have examples of all 3 levels of shading.

The photos below are in the order of Light Medium and dark.

Check your coins!


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 Posted 07/07/2016  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an old thread talking about the colour varieties. Ol' Dirt Detector was a hoot while he lasted. Then we had Dirt Detector 2...

https://goccf.com/t/240669&whichpage=1
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Thanks for that. I did a search and did not find any previous threads. Sorry for posting old news.
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 Posted 07/07/2016  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have one of these sitting on my desk, by coincidence, and it's the darker shading. I'm thinking this is most common?
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I think a good majority if not all of the initial 5-packs ordered and shipped from RCM contain the assortment of colour variants. At least mine does and I recall an earlier thread than the DD one, when the variations were first noticed.

The coloured variety then took quite awhile to trickle into circulation, possibly because RCM realized they needed to fine tune their colouring process. Somewhere, can't recall exactly where, but it was written that RCM mentioned a delay due to "production issues". I wonder, were the variations initially released into circulation as well?

The article was published by RCNA? It is certainly true that quirks and irregularities have always generated interest and appeal within the hobby so if the depth of paint shading brings that about, well, that has to be a good thing. This and the 2016 Uncirculated Set with the 2015 toonie, somewhat similar falling into the same category of RCM mistakes. And so if it perks interest, my thought is as fellow collectors it's not up to us to criticize.....unless we're intent on "shooting ourselves in the foot".

orfew, thanks for sharing the information!
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I checked my 5 pack. They are all the medium shading variety.
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Quote:


I checked my 5 pack. They are all the medium shading variety.


So you found the 3 types from rolls? And just curious, you noticed there's only 3 different shades but no variations inbetween? I assumed there would be, but I don't have enough to know.

Earlier thread, shading variation noticed by CCF member prefix-kix as well:
https://goccf.com/t/232146&whichpage=3
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The 3 variations I found in coins that were given out in a coin exchange at last year's RCNA. I have 4 of the coin cards with the plain and coloured coins. I identified the variants from coins in those cards.

As for the number of variations, I only have a total of nine of these coins so my sample size is small, but I only noticed the 3 variations.

Thanks for the link.
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Quote:
Most likely caused by the ink not properly filling the small dots in the plate


Somewhere there are a few B-roll videos showing the paint application. I can't remember where I found it, but if someone can post the link it would explain the process and possible reasons for the variations.

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"Henry Nienhuis claims that there are at least 3 different 2015 25 cent coloured flag coins depending on the amount of shading."
I can confirm that there are at least 4 different ones. there is also one with no shading at all. I have an example of all 4 different ones in my 5 pack!
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That is pretty cool however I don't think there will be much of a premium for them unless maybe you can find someone interested
in buying all of them at once.
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Darryl,

Can you post a picture?
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I can post pictures later on tonight.

I have identified 3 versions. One Super Dark, One Medium and One with no shading at all. This was from opening about 6 mint boxes.
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are the more than the three types
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wizard: I have identified 3 versions. One Super Dark, One Medium and One with no shading at all. This was from opening about 6 mint boxes
Bigchip22: are the more than the three types

Wizard, if you will notice the 3 examples in this post, there are 3 different shadings. I also found one in my set with NO shading whatsoever, which drew me to the conclusion that there are definitely 4 versions of this coin. dark shade, medium shade, light shade, and no shade!
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Sorry I haven't had a chance to look further into it. It could be that the light and medium shadings, imho, were too trivial which is why I just classified it as one shading category.

Ill post my own pictures/scans soon.
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