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macmercury Pillar of the Community United States 5829 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 1:19 pm A co-worker of mine ask me to look over his father coins, when he was oversea servicing in the armed force after WW2 in China. I could see that the 2 emperors appears to be fantasy pieces, but the strikes are much better then today's counterfeit pieces. I haven't check out whether these sticks to magnet, since I don't have one with me. The Fat Man dollar is easily identified as year 10 (1921) in my world coin catalog, but I need help in ID'ing the one with the 2 dragons on the obverse, and the reverse is minted at Kwantung province with the value of 7 Mace and 2 Candareens. Sorry for the shaky pictures taken with my iPhone, I will see this tomorrow again, and I will bring my coin scale with magnet. Report this Post to the Staff

TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 6:04 pm These all look fake, unfortunately. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 7:44 pm I have not seen this combination of designs obverse / reverse before. I suspect fantasies, not patterns. Unfortunately, that makes authentication more dificult, in what is a grey area in the first place. I have some good references, but in this case, I do not consider even these good enough to give authorative help. Report this Post to the Staff
snowman24 Valued Member United States 186 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 9:05 pm Family members found 4 Chinese coins and 3 were one of your designs... All were fakes and made out of steel Check them with a magnet Report this Post to the Staff
macmercury Pillar of the Community United States 5829 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 10:44 pm I most definitely will. I figure when I dropped the coin, it didn't have that silver ring tone. I have 2 authentic fat man dollar, and I can hear the difference. The Chinese were making fakes for a long time, these looks and feel of having a higher quality. Thanks all for checking. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16827 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 10:44 pm The "two dragons" piece is copied from a pattern 1 tael coin. The tael was bigger and heavier than a dollar, so the design had to be shrunk to fit onto a fake dollar planchet. They also modified the legend: the bottom legend on a "genuine pattern" reads "Treasury silver 1 tael". Your coin reads "Treasury silver 7 mace 2" - on Kwangtung dollars, it's supposed to say "7 mace 2 candareens" but the final "candareen" character has been omitted from your coin. Here's an old forum thread where someone posted an identical coin with the "missing candareen". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
macmercury Pillar of the Community United States 5829 Posts	Posted 07/07/2016 10:51 pm Thanks Sap, I can now tell my co-worker that he's not to used these to pay for her daughter college tuition. ;~D Report this Post to the Staff
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