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Treated myself to this one, the start of the attempt to upgrade all my dragons slayer's to MS Would appreciate grade opinions (personally I give it MS62), and also how the rim ding might affect grade (from a TPG)? It not enough of a distraction in my opinion to affect eye appeal, and can't see it being from 'circulation' given the state of the coin?  |
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Canada
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I'm at a 63 too Might even get 64 if the TPG is generous |
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United States
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Nice token.
Considering the softness of the obverse strike I would be
surprised if this token grades higher than MS 60. The reverse
is much better struck.
This is Courteau variety 281, having a rarity factor of 1 (common).
p.s. The rust spots below the man's thigh are characteristic of
this variety.
doug
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Doug knows.  |
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United States
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The token is definitely mint-state. By softness, I am
referring to the lack of crispness to the strike of the Tail
of the Horse, the Rosettes, the Ground, the Legend (especially
the A's), etal. I do not known what caused this, perhaps the
die was not properly seated (square, flush), or loose.
Still a great token.
doug
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The grade will depend on who grades it.
PCGS or NGC will give it a higher grade than ICCS.
Different standards.
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Curious if the rim ding's proximity to the softer areas of strike might be related or just coincidence  Seems to be some diagonal "shifting" of the denticals around "BANK" aswell. Question: if the weak strike is the way it originally came struck from the mint, and not from wear, does it really affect the technical grade of the coin? (eye appeal yes, but technical grade?). Edited by Wade
07/09/2016 9:30 pm
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Question: if the weak strike is the way it originally came struck from the mint, and not from wear, does it really affect the technical grade of the coin? (eye appeal yes, but technical grade?) no sir, the technical grade is based solely on the amounts of circulation ware and hits/damage that the coin displays. in the most technical of grading, the strike and toning play no role in the grade unless the toning is so deep to the point where it affects the surface where the coin is harmed/damaged/actually destroys the luster. at which point the coin would than go off the detail left on the coin, ex: unc details, Au details etc. Feel free to call me Will.
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MS62 is very conservative in my opinion.
Should go a little higher.
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To open another can of worms... A number of Canadian Colonial Tokens were habitually struck over well worn host coins. Ergo, you have a very low grade host coin which was used as the planchet for the new token. The re-strike is pristine, but due to the poor quality of the host coin, many TPG's are reluctant to grade above a VF. Should the condition of the host coin be taken into consideration? doug |
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Perssonally, my humble opinion is that the host coins condition/grade should be irrelavent.
As struck from the mint is MS, with eye appeal weighing heavier than any assigned subjective technical number between 60 and 70.
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