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 Posted 07/16/2016  4:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Help me grade some coins and win these:

Grade-These---And-Win!

Poland - 2 zloty 2010 "Katowice"
The coin is uncirculated but relatively low MS due to many marks on the reverse fields below the inscription and one small rim nick. The obverse is better. No fingerprints this time.
And of course, this contest wouldn't be complete without one of the things you are to grade, namely:
Poland - 1 grosz 1949
If there is any wear on this one, it's not particularly noticeable. But the lustre isn't that good and it also has a few marks.



Onto the items in question.
Please grade these:

Grade-These---And-Win!

Grade-These---And-Win!

Details about the coins:
- These are small aluminum coins. Full UNC rolls of these are nothing special, full UNC bags of ten thousand pieces are rarer but still available. Obviously, finding a damaged one is also easy as they are often stored in bags or boxes among other coins of the era which include large and heave copper-nickel pieces. Such coins are sold by the kilo (current price of mixed "communist" coins is $5/kilo although you can get them cheaper). No wonder nobody puts them in 2x2s

Details about the grading:
- Please grade all eight coins.
- A precise numerical grade is not mandatory.
- If something does not qualify for a straight grade, please write "details" and possibly explain why, as your task is to try to determine which of these exhibit genuine circulation wear. Additional comments are welcome.
To sum up, "VF", "VF/EF", "VF35", "VF details (...)" are all valid answers.
- To make your answers clear please refer to these coins as follows:

Grade-These---And-Win!

The coins are in the same position in both photos.


General contest rules:
- You can edit your post.
- You can post twice or more times if you cannot edit your original post and wish to add some information.
- The contest lasts until I make a post that says "contest closed" but at least 3 whole days.
- The prize will be drawn randomly.
- The prize will be sent to the winner by regular priority mail.

Edited by DL20K
07/16/2016 4:39 pm
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 Posted 07/16/2016  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YNumismetals Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A: Fine 20
B:Fine 15
C:VF30
D: Fine 15
E: Fr 8
F: FR 7
G: F 15
H:VG10
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 Posted 07/17/2016  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
YNumismetals Collector, reg. "E" and "F", there must be some mistake, as 7-8 isn't FR. Editing your post will not disqualify you.

Forgot to add, anyone that wants to participate but does not want the prize, you may enter - just put [no prize] in your post.
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 Posted 07/17/2016  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the contest - great idea, I like it! :)

Now for my uneducated guesses (and I do believe I always grade coins lower than they are when just looking at pictures):

A: Fine
B: Extra fine, detail: just a thick layer of dirt.
C: Fine
D: Good
E: Very Good
F: Fine, detail: just a thick layer of dirt
G: Fine
H: Very Fine

That should be it.
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 Posted 07/17/2016  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who is to say what is the correct grade? How is the winner chosen?
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 Posted 07/18/2016  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TypeCoin971793,

Quote:
- The prize will be drawn randomly.


UltraRant, I'm not sure about the idea being good, as there are so few participants. Unless you meant it's a great idea because the chances to win are so high
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 Posted 07/18/2016  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like grading, so I will try this. They were all difficult to determine, as I could not find any circulated graded examples to compare them to. That being said, I am not too confident with the grades I gave them, but I will post them anyways.

A) VF-25.
B) EF-40.
C) F-12.
D) G-6. Its rim does not look too good, but its low grade may save it from getting Details.
E) VG-10.
F) VF-30.
G) F-15.
H) F-15.

A, B, and F all have some black stuff on them. If that stuff can be removed, and nothing bad is hiding beneath it, those coins probably would not get a Details grade.
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 Posted 07/18/2016  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DL20K: sure it's a good idea. Contests are always a good idea.

Anyway, I like the idea of this contest. It's a bit surrealistic and has a good tad of humor and I really like that. Basically I can just vote them all MS70, as it doesn't matter. But putting people into giving a serious attempt to grade 8 generally worthless and extremely common coins which exist in MS condition by the millions is quite funny, actually. You should have given the lot as a main prize to make it even funnier. Plus one in good state, of course. Nevertheless, I'm actually very interested in both coins in the prize, as I don't have a very good 1 Grosz yet (I'm probably that one moronic exception who put a non MS 1 communist Grosz in a 2x2) and I really think the 2 Zloty really looks nice (and I only have 'common' Zloty coins of the last 70 or so years so far).

I don't know if my chances to win are very high, as you decide the deadline. So maybe you just wait until 250 people have reacted or so. That's reduce my chances a bit, I'd say.

Anyway, if you put a link to the contest in your signature, you'll probably get a lot more attention to it. And thanks for reminding me to visit Poland any time soon again, it's been too long since I was there. Dzi#281;kuj#281; bardzo!
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 Posted 07/18/2016  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Joseph7420,

Yes, I think the black stuff can be removed from the surface.

And indeed, finding anything below AU isn't easy. Imagine how difficult it was to assemble this set. It makes you wonder how widely they actually circulated.

UltraRant,

I'm not waiting for 250 entries, like they do with that Wheat cent roll

And if those were the prize, I'm afraid nobody would enter

When visiting Poland, don't search for coin shops on a Saturday. In my limited experience, your chances of actually finding them open for business decrease substantially on that particular day of the week. Though that may be different in the largest cities.
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 Posted 07/18/2016  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hello There to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A very fine
B very fine
C fine
D very good details
E fine
F very fine
G fine
H very fine

First time attempting to grade coins. Sorry if I'm way off.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  03:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Anyway, if you put a link to the contest in your signature, you'll probably get a lot more attention to it.


You know, your advice is working against you here...

There is one more entry. That's something, I guess.
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07/19/2016 03:47 am
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 Posted 07/19/2016  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the NGC census. The blue rectangle is MS60.

Grade-These---And-Win!

We've certainly got something unusual here.
Anyone care to sponsor the grading fees for these?
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 Posted 07/19/2016  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DL20K. Don't worry, I would have competed! Thanks for the tip about Saturdays. I'm usually in Trojmiasto and Warszawa, and more often on weekdays than weekends, and I never really had any issues with coin shops being closed down unexpectedly. I'll keep it in mind though. Just out of curiosity, where about in Poland do you usually go coin shopping?

ps. 'Just' one more entry? Your amount of replies increased by 33.33%!
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07/19/2016 04:37 am
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UltraRant, I'll elaborate on the Saturday issue. Again, this is my experience only, and may or may not apply elsewhere.

Not contest-related:
I went to 5 coin shops in Szczecin on a Saturday earlier this year. One was closed (no working hours to be found on the Internet - it appears they're never open on Saturdays), one was closed even though it was supposed to be open, one had a notice posted about shortened hours on Saturdays on the door, one had a notice posted about shortened hours on that particular day only (and was indeed open later on), and one was in fact open as expected. Then, another guy told me to avoid Saturdays because dealers attend coin shows which are sometimes held on that day. And finally, if the coin shop has employees, the "main guy" or owner may be absent on a Saturday. Hence, my note about how - for a variety of reasons - coin shopping on Saturdays may end up being a rather frustrating experience.
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07/19/2016 05:36 am
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 Posted 07/19/2016  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not contest related:

Thanks for the info! Visiting coin shows sounds liek a legit reason, yet it's a bit awkward to do that on the day most of your customers likely will have time to visit you. I guess it's a bit the same here in Norway. The stamp/coin guy at Liertoppen has his booth opened whenever he wants and just hangs a sheet on his door with 'be rigth back', whenever that may be. Most coin shops are closed from the end of June to the beginning of August due to vacation.

Szczecin is a city I haven't visited yet, but there are direct flights from Oslo with Norwegian and Wizzair, so I guess I don't have any excuse not to pay it a visit. Good thing there's shops focusing on all things monety or numizmatyczny around!

I was actually planning to visit the coin show in Warszawa in the beginning of September. Haven't been there before but it seems to fit my agenda.
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Not contest related:
Good luck with your visit. I hope you'll be able to visit some coin shops and write about your impressions.

As for discounts/bonuses, they are possible. Here, at least, can't say about Warsaw. Each LCS did offer something in the end - some gave a discount without even me asking, others offered something only after some amount of nagging. Though the amount/quality varies greately.


Anyway, this must have been the least exciting contest of the year. Contest closed.
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