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This anomaly appears on the east side of the eagle and the west side of the flower. Any idea if a VAM has been assigned to it? Does it merit VAM? Is it a known variety? Thanks, Jim     |
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That is a die clash, before this con got minted the dies came together (more than once by the looks of that clash)without a coin between them and part of the obverse design was transferred to the reverse. Clashes can be markers for various VAM numbers, but not usually the determining factor. |
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Thanks, amac and infinite...I've looked at the website and my resource list of 100 VAMs and dont see anything like it. Is it worth submitting to whom?
Jim
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j_h_s, Die clashes are common. They are interesting, but as far as I have seen do not increase the value of the coin by much. The exception to that is if any lettering has been imparted on the other die. Clashed n's or st's in front of the neck on the obverse of the coin are highly sought after. Your coin has tripled clashes. Nice coin. 1889 P VAM 23A has the strongest example. http://www.vamworld.com/1889-P+VAM-23A |
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To expand on NGiles' previous comments about transferred letters, please check the following pic. I must apologize for Liberty's appearance - she had a terrible motorcycle crash and there's considerable road rash. It's the best pic I currently have of a letter transfer, though.  In the left red circle, first note the line slanting down towards the star, from her neck. This is a clash transfer of the edge of the eagle's wing, and is the best immediate sign that you're looking at a clashed coin. Second, right below that diagonal, note the two v-shaped lines. They're the bottom of the "n" in "In God we trust," transferred by the clash. The "st" from "trust" will, if transferred, show up in the right red circle. These locations, varying just a little because of die rotation, are the same on all Morgans. The first line I spoke of could be as far up as the jaw-neck junction, and the example shown is about as low as it gets. The location of the transferred letters will vary proportionally to that line. I urge you to check the obverse of this coin. Those multiple clashes (sometimes the dies came together a few times before they realized there was no planchet in there) indicate that the obverse could be heavily clashed as well. |
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SuperDave,
Road rash or not, I wish I had found that coin. If I am not mistaken it looks as if she is the bearded lady as well. Is that a 1878 P 22A? The location of the clash looks right.
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I should have looked a little harder before I guessed on the VAM. Nice coin!! Thanks for the pics.  |
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How do you get some many responses? My name is Tery...Hi
I have an 1886 Morgan posted yesterday (teryble, how many can you find)
The striking seems so revelant and it also has a closed 6. I am very new to this, but there seems to be so many anomalies...Am I the only one whom sees these, or am I just not educated?
Any input appreciated
Thanks,
Tery
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Tery, I responded to your 1886 topic, check it out. We are all uneducated, don't take it personal.  |
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