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Question About Die Clashes On A Three Cent Nickel

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 Posted 07/23/2016  12:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kevin_1986 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone

I recently purchased a 1865 3CN and once I received the coin I noticed right away that the obverse is covered in clashes , pretty much the entire fields of the obverse have them ...
My question is will this increase or decrease the value any ?
The reason I ask is I don't find the coin as attractive with all this clashing but thought maybe it'd be a bit of an oddity to the right person ...
I've took a few photos to give you an idea , please forgive my photo skills :)

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 Posted 07/23/2016  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks quite heavily clashed, and It would be worth around $10 more for this example I believe...

What did NGC grade this coin?
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 Posted 07/23/2016  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin_1986 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My photos really don't show just how much it actually is clashed , under a loup you can even see some of the letters look as if they were struck several times , kinda like Machine Doubling ...

I done a quick search a minute ago and found a 1865 that looks similar as far as the clashing goes , it was in a anacs holders and was labeled heavily clashed or something to that effect ...
This is really the only clashed coin I've owned or seen other than in photos , so I don't really know anything about these but if it did add a bit of a premium to the coin that would be great ...

Thanks :)
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 Posted 07/23/2016  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3c nickels are very often clashed, although this one is a pretty extreme example. Is the reverse as strong?

If I were looking for a really nice type coin, I'd probably want one that is not clashed, but if I were looking for a "best in class" clashed 3c nickel, I'd want this coin.
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 Posted 07/23/2016  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As to value and being collectible,if you collect clashed dies then it would add value if you want a non clashed coin then it would be priced differently. To each their own, right?
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True - I personally find clash marks interesting but distracting, and try to avoid them if possible.
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I personally find clash marks interesting but distracting, and try to avoid them if possible.


I am the opposite. I LOVE die clashes and go out of my way to collect them. I think it adds, hugely IMO, to the allure of the individual coin and the coin type in general.
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 Posted 07/24/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an 1866 3 Cent nickel with a clash or two.

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and to the CCF!!

And to the Wild and Wacky US 3 Cent Coin!!
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Thanks guys :)
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to CCF!

The clash issue was ongoing throughout the series' run, as you can see from these two coins, struck in 1865 and 1881, both in Mint State (MS) grade:

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For being such a small coin with an unusual domination they had a wide and fascinating variety of errors, die varieties, and other anomalies that make them really fun to collect.
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Cool die clash!
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I really like it. I would not pay a premium for it, but I would pay FMV for it as a curiosity.
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I'd hang on to it since someday the authorities may assign a specific variety # to it.

And IMO classic coins are classic coins; that's why they're all lumped together under that category.

And who know some big wig somewhere, someday that has a lot of numismatic influence, could suddenly start pushing 3 cent clashes as collectible varieties thus pushing up the $ value.

I keep all of mu clashed coins no matter what coin it is: period.

Some collectible clashed silver dollar VAMs, for instance, have variety #s.

Check it out:

http://www.vamworld.com/clashed+dies



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I personally think clashes are more significant than woodies or toned coins. But not at the level of double dies.

EDIT: delightful coins by the way.
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Die clashes should NOT constitute a separate variety. A variety is defined by the pair of dies used. Those dies do not create a new variety every time they come together without a planchet between them. An obv/rev die pair is still the same obv/rev die pair after they receive clashmarks.
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