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Help With Proof Like Or Deep Mirror Designation 1896 Morgan Dollar

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Novice here but have read a number of articles on PL and DMPL Morgan dollars. In my opinion the below coin is at least PL as it reflects 4 inches of the ruler. I am still working on my photography skills.

Request input from the knowledgeable folks. Respectfully, Bill

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Stand the coin upright against a flat surface, with no direct lighting, only diffuse or indirect, preferably a white incandescent. Set your camera on the surface perpendicular, such that the lens is directly pointed at the obverse/reverse of the coin. Use a long exposure shot to bring out the contrast.

That should let us see how "deep" the mirrors are.
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Thank you Adam. My only digital camera is my IPad which I used for the photo in my post. I will try to borrow one. I appreciate your input. Regards, Bill
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You can do the same thing your ipad camera, just set it on a flat surface pointed directly at the coin.
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Great suggestion. Thank you
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to the CCF!
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That reverse certainly looks PL but note that the coin isn't considered PL unless both sides exhibit that level of reflectivity.
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Photographing this is tough. I finally got a front and back but had to drop to very low resolution to post it. Placed coin on a piece of white with 4 lines: blue 1 inch - red 2 in. black 3 inch and red 4 inches from base of coin. On obverse I can clearly see all 4 lines; on the reverse I can see the black 3 inch line wrap around behind the right wing and believe I see the 4 inch red line blurred at the very to of the coin. Maybe/Maybe not.

Requesting opinions as to whether Prool-Like from the experts.
What is a Deep Proof Like?

Respectfully, Bill



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to the CCF!!

These pictures are great! A picture of the complete obverse would help as well.

From what I can see here I would say yes this would make PL.
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What is a Deep Proof Like?


Take a look at this thread it will give you an idea of the difference between PL and DMPL and there is some good information.

https://goccf.com/t/233866
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Thanks for the input. Here is another photograph of the obverse.

Looking forward to reading the comparison thread. Bill

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Thanks again folks. I am trying to establish the value of this coin. What % premium is usually attributed to a PL Morgan dollar? I am grading it as MS but don't know what number. Any input is appreciated.

Regards, Bill
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Need much better pics
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Not PL
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