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1839-O Liberty Seated Dime For Opinions, F106/F106A?

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This 1839-O Liberty Seated dime appears to be a die state of F-106/F-106a. The reverse cobweb cracks are fully developed, and you can tell that the dies were pretty much done at this point, making a sharply struck coin look very worn. Large O is correct for the attribution.

The interesting dilemma here is that 106a should have obverse die cracks from the head going clockwise through the stars; no such cracks seem to be present here. This would seem to imply some sort of intermediate die state between 106 and 106a, but the dies here look too worn to be an intermediate state. Is it possible that this is actually a post-106a die state / terminal and that the obverse die crack had been either polished or eroded?

Also, something's going on with the shield -- extremely worn dies, circulation wear, or PMD? I'm not sure.

So all together this is rather a confusing little dime that does not match either of Fortin's plate coins for 1839-O/106. Grade-wise, I'm thinking VF (details) -- let's see how CCF feels.

Note: I do not own this coin, but it caught my eye in listings; so this is for educational and grading practice purposes.

1839-O-Liberty-Seated-Dime-For-Opinions,-F106/F106A?

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VF-20 details
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not familiar with this one but everything seems to match up with your description. I think a VF something grade is appropriate as some of the stars still have detail as well as hair and chest area
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Agree VF-20, but apparent abrasions on shield could yield a details grade.
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I will straight grade it, but I will bump the the grade down because of that stuff on the shield.

F-15
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VF-20, possibly Details.
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I need to study on grading the seated liberty, but I go between F15 and VF20. VF-
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VF20

Sometimes the die cracks mentioned can be obscured or hard to pick up in photos.
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