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2015 P Saratoga Mint Error?

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Notice impression on 2015. Is this mint error?

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Picture is a bit fuzzy, looks like it could be I haven't come across any like that. But, I would wait on the experts. Is it raised like die crack?
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oldfritz, I know I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but coin wrapper, counter or vending machine.

Some coin wrapping machines are notorious for leaving their marks on the end coins while applying the sealing end crimp, Thanks, Doug.
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Again I agree coin wrapper.
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The devices on the out ring where it the date are incuse. (sunk into the coin) coin wrapper damage damages the fields of these areas and not the deeper devices that are incuse. So the coin wrapper damage only affects the surface of the coin and not the deep incuse devices.
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I always forget about the coin wrapping machines and leaving the circle on things. But, I think this looks different, most of the ones I see have a bunch of scratches covering a good part of the coin, I don't see that happening on this one. Just want to make sure I understand this.
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Let me get out an honest opinion here. A coin roll hunter named JBCOINSINC made a video on 2015-P coin errors, and he mentioned some Blue Ridge Parkway quarters having the edge of the image have a continuation go through the date, kinda like this Saratoga quarter, but again this is not a Blue Ridge Parkway one, so I can't say this is an error or not. Just throwing something out there!
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I saw that video, now that you mention it, it could be that
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CoinCents, Wish I could give a point blank model ACME-xyz answer to coin wrapping machines, but there are many different models to choose from.

Some are fully automatic, some are manual and some are half and half. The foot print they leave behind can vary greatly.

I'll try and comment on the one half and half I've seen demonstrated as the coins are sorted and counted the rolled paper is fed around the stacked coins. A person would then remove the coins with both ends still open and insert into a cylindrical slot that had (for lack of a better wording) a mechanized reamer that seals the ends one at a time.

I could see a little (manual) applied pressure would leave little to no contact marks. On the other hand a lot of (manual) pressure could do damage to the surface of the end coin.

Reminds me of making gravy, it takes time and patients to get it right. Thanks, Doug.
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Let me add, the inner rim included in this reverse design on the quarter(s) seems to have been made with coin wrapper damage in mind.

If we could see the whole coin, I'll bet it shows it goes around further than just the exposed top of date and the bottom of the sword as we see pictured. Thanks, Doug.
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Sorry to be a pain. But you all know a lot more than I. I guess the point being nothing in the minting process would or could cause such an anomaly so it would have to be PSD of some sort.

Oldfritz would you be able to post a clearer close up image of that area.
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hope these help can only get so close to it blurs. there is definite groo e there.

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I had to check the bay for photos of other quarters to compare your to. Hang on to it for now,something is going on with yours. Maybe Mike will chime in. It does not look like coin wrapping damage at all.
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I agree with John, because like I said above, this is similar to some Blue Ridge Parkway quarters that JBCOINSINC mentioned, but this is a Saratoga quarter, so I can't fully say anything. You should keep it as this doesn't look like wrapper damage at all.
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hang on to this
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