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Need Help With This 8TF Reverse

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 Posted 08/03/2016  10:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Still looking for 8TF...
but can't detect which reverse is this.

The one that seems closest is VAM-9 but does not even seem to be that one..

Have only this pic cropped..



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 Posted 08/03/2016  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look like v14.1 a1k reverse but I don't have the book in front of me. Could also be v9 but I think the lack of definition of the upper left side tailfethers says 14.1. I'm not an expert on 8tf yet though

Do you see any clashing?
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 Posted 08/03/2016  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Cascade.

No, there aren't any kind of clashing..

I took a look at VAM 14.1 page but can't see (maybe because of bad pics..) any of the obverse and reverse die markers.
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 Posted 08/03/2016  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VAM 14.1 is an "evil mimic" of VAM 9. If I'm right and it's either one of the 2 then you either have a v9 or an ULTRA RARE v14.1 if there is no clashing. 14.1 is the most common 8tf but an unclashed 14.1 is super rare with only a couple known. I had the privilege of holding an unclashed 14.1 not too long ago. I was tingling

The wear could be hiding the clashing on your coin though if it is a 14.1

Any chance at more pics? Like I said though I'm not an expert on 8tf yet but it sure looks like an a1k (14.1) reverse from the pic.
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 Posted 08/03/2016  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here full pics.
Could this be a fake 8TF how I just came across some time ago here ? https://goccf.com/t/259884

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 Posted 08/03/2016  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah. That doesn't look right. I was thinking the surfaces looked wrong in the first pic but check out the lower hair curl and outer rim of the obverse not to mention the gigantic wreath berries
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 Posted 08/03/2016  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't not noticed the rim and the berries....
I came to doubt when I went to make an offer ... my account was blocked and I could not bid ..... it was a different seller than the other fake 8TF ( That I sent back and had a refund) , but I strongly doubt that they are the same ...
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