1955-S Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC Retained Cud Not On Coc?

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Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 08/08/2016 4:02 pm I did not find this on COC(?) Report this Post to the Staff

Dustin6 Pillar of the Community United States 3516 Posts	Posted 08/08/2016 5:47 pm Hmmm. Maybe get some full obverse and reverse pics and shoot JC and email and see what he says Report this Post to the Staff
Slamnbass Pillar of the Community United States 3644 Posts	Posted 08/08/2016 11:04 pm Nice find pete-definitely rim to rim but can you see any displacement or horizontal offset in hand? I cant see it in the pics... Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 12:22 am So far it just looks like a die crack. I don't see an interruption of the devices except for the cracks. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 05:38 am Cudsoncoins has the following definition of a Retained Cud (http://cuds-on-coins.com/retained-cuds/ ) Quote: By using the simplest degree or basis of what constitutes a Retained Cud is the most logical approach to the question "what is or what is not". While it is true that some rim to rim die cracks do not have that encompassed piece yet dislodged from the main portion of the die, it is an almost impossible task to establish that fact. A degree of vertical or latitude displacement of that area inside the rim to rim die crack is a confident sign that the portion is no longer attached and necessary to be called a Retained Cud It can also be said that a rim to rim die crack may not be a Retained Cud at one certain time, but it can form into a Retained Cud at a later time and further form into a Cud. So, we use the simplest form of what a Retained Cud is; a die crack that is from rim to rim and has a portion of either the field or a portion of a design element(s) contained within and has a lateral or vertical displacement. The debate, it seems to me, on this coin is whether or not there is displacement. It looks to me that there is vertical displacement (although it could be lighting and perspective playing tricks?). I see it adjacent to the rim in the field on both ends. The definition quoted above does not require an interruption of the design elements, it seems to me. It allows for *either* a portion of the field or a portion of a design element. What am I missing? Edited by Pete2226 08/09/2016 05:44 am Report this Post to the Staff
11997755 Pillar of the Community United States 2253 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 07:05 am Have to wait and see what, the judge, JC says. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 07:19 am Either determination is fine with me! I just enjoy going through the mental exercises of trying to determine an accurate attribution! I appreciate everyone's responses! Thank you! Report this Post to the Staff
Slamnbass Pillar of the Community United States 3644 Posts	Posted 08/09/2016 11:55 am I enjoy it too pete. And I dont think your missing anything its just that horizontal can be easily captured in a pic but its harder to show vertical displacement on camera and sometimes just need the coin in hand to determine...you do only need to have one or the other (vertical or horizontal) to be a Retained Cud Edited by Slamnbass 08/09/2016 11:56 am Report this Post to the Staff
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1955-S LWC Retained Cud Not On Coc?