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Valued Member
Australia
338 Posts |
Hi Everyone, Recently bought this piece for the coin, thought it was undervalued when sold. Let me know how you think SEGS graded this one (and if you're keen, what you think PCGS would). Purchased with the intention of cracking it out to send to PCGS.   Thanks for looking! |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I find it fishy that someone would send a nice coin like that to SEGS. That leads me to believe that it is cleaned or altered. It looks MS 62 condition. SEGS may have said 65
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
Unc details cleaned. I see hairlines obverse near 3 o'clock
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Looks AU-58. Those hairlines look to be on the slab. That is not what cleaning hairlines look like.  Edit: Why give SEGS all of this crap because they are not PCGS? They are just as good, if not better than, ICG. They are not a basement slabber. Edited by TypeCoin971793
08/09/2016 1:32 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Is the shield damaged? Otherwise it looks quite nice.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2843 Posts |
Quote:
Edit: Why give SEGS all of this crap because they are not PCGS? They are just as good, if not better than, ICG. They are not a basement slabber. I have had less than great experiences with SEGS slabs. Moreover, my point stands that if someone had a problem free slider 1854 O Half, they would financially be well advised to pay the extra few bucks and get PCGS. The fact that it is in a SEGS holder may be because the person who sent it likes them, or likely because thaey knew that the grade at PCGS would be details. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Good bet. That obverse shield is a mess.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
18720 Posts |
AU58 but not sure how PCGS will look at that shield as PMD |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1499 Posts |
Aside from the shield issue, I'd say MS62. With the shield issue it would get a "details" grade from NGC and PCGS. The net grade value would be something like AU-50, but most collectors would prefer a "straight grade" AU-50.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8137 Posts |
MS details due to the shield. I suspect that this one didn't go to PCGS because they wouldn't straight grade it.
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Valued Member
 Australia
338 Posts |
Interesting replies! Bill is 100% correct on what SEGS said, "MS62 Details - Obverse Digs" to be exact. Paid the equivalent of 235US for the coin which I'm very pleased about. Will still go to PCGS with my next grading run just to compare what they think, I was hoping it would grade an AU58 straight (might be a bit wishful).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1499 Posts |
My advice would be don't waste your money on PCGS because I think you have gotten what they will tell you for free here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6398 Posts |
Looks slightly circulated so AU-58 details. It doesn't look obviously cleaned but PCGS would likely call it damaged due to the "obverse digs" on the shield.
Cracking coins from straight-graded SEGS slabs for submission to PCGS is a chancy proposition. In my experience you often lose 1 grade if the coin is problem-free. You are unlikely to get a satisfactory result with a coin already flagged as damaged.
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Valued Member
Australia
338 Posts |
Bit of thredomancy but I sent this coin as part of my 8 free submissions to PCGS. Straight graded at AU58 (much to my surprise). Good work those who picked it!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 congrats IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Posted 08/09/2016 1:13 pm
