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Rare 50 Pfennig Bank Deutschers"J" "9"

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My grandmother worked for the government when I was younger and use to travel allot,when she passed she left me quite a few things, I've only recently decided I was interested in finder a buyer for my collection, this is a true raritie and haven't actually seen 1 besides mine, it is not valued in every grade because it hasn't been that many that have came to surface. But I wanted to share this with the world. Also @swamperbob I see you have some German coin knowledge I thought you might enjoy this.
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Bank deutscher Länder 50 pfennig?
1949 J?
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Yes but quick question this my first time making a post, why wont it lets load my pictures? What's the easiest way? And yes hai
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Here is the tutorial about uploading and posting images

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https://1drv.ms/f/s!ApUPH-QK6cGwgXfddAM0Pf0Qie5v



Here you go guys, lol sorry I didn't know I had to set the link.
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Very neat piece! As I understand it, these were struck unofficially with genuine dies...
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Ah that's a Microsoft One Drive link. I knew the address looked familiar.
Though it'd look better if the image was put directly in your post.

So, the coin has just a "9" instead of a full date.
Is it known when they were struck?
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From Krause:



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The 1950G dated coin was restruck without authorization by a mint official using genuine dies - quantity unknown. Mintmark J also with year 9" (instead of 1949)- Rare."
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The 1950G originally has just 30.000 coins struck.

Some more info about German coins and (partially) missing dates on coins (in German, from 2004): http://www.numismatikforum.de/viewt...?f=13&t=5835

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es kommt immer wieder vor, nicht nur bei 50 Pf. Stücken, dass Teile oder gar die komplette Jahreszahl nicht geprägt werden. Deshalb gehe ich davon aus, dass auch BDL 50 Pfennig Münzen mit diesen Fehlern behaftet sind.


"It happens over again, not just with 50 Pfennig coins, that parts or even the whole date isn't minted. I therefore assume, that also Bank Deutscher Länder 50 Pfennig coins contain such errors."


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50 Pfennig Bank Deutscher Länder ohne Jahreszahl sind bekannt und kommen sehr häufig vor.


"50 Pfennig Bank Deutsche Länder without a year are known coins and appear very frequent."

About the value:


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wie gesagt kommt diese Verprägung sehr häufig vor daher kann man schon einen Durchschnittspreis ermittelt. Diese Stücke werden in der Regel mit 5 € gehandelt, manchmal (selten) auch bis zu 10.
Zu DM-Zeiten bekam man sie übrigens noch für 5 DM.


"As said, these errors appear so often that an average value can be calculated. These coins are, in general, sold for 5€, but also (seldom) up to €10.
In the Deutschmark-era, you could buy these for 5 DM."

This is info from 2004, so just 3 years after the introduction of the Euro. I guess inflation and so have added a bit to the price. Don't expect to become a millionaire now, though... Also, 1949J is the most common 1949 50 Pfennig coin, about 42.000.000 were struck.

If you had a 1949J with Bundesrepublik Deutschland instead of Bank deutscher Länder, you would actually be on your way to become a millionaire now, as only 7 of these coins are known.
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In bad condition mine is worth 750, mines in almost perfect condition so what would mine be valued at.
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UltraRant thank you for elaborating on the commonness of such coins. I didn't know such coins existed but then I never pursued this area. Would they be considered errors, or were they also restruck like the 1950G?
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Mines 1949 j date "9" coin, bank deutschers Lander.
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Can no one help me answer MY question..? I just wanna know what my coin would be valued at, not everyone turn this into they"re post. Thanks community.
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well, if you actually read my answer to your post, it's below 10 euro...
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Maybe I want a different opinion because my coin is rare..i can't even find one online besides mine, the value is at 750$ USD is decent condition, so your answer is invalid to me. Maybe you didn't read right.
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