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Iran, Islamic Republic Of
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Hello my friends  ; These two gold coins were given to me as a gift  I really appreciate any information about them, specially the date. Thank you in advance  First one:   Second one:   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Belgium
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Edited by Petrus
08/15/2016 5:09 pm
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@sommoh, what a great gift!
The date on the top dinar is in kufic script around the circumference of the reverse. However, my kufic is somewhat weak and the details on this coin are pretty worn, so my reading should be considered very tentative. However, the Bismillah generally starts at about 2 o'clock so the region of interest for determining the date is from about 6 o'clock counterclockwise up through 2 o'clock, which is actually somewhat clearer in places. My best guess is AH243, but I would love confirmation from one of our other members on this.
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Australia
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I think the date on the first one is 248.
Still not sure about the other one.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Iran, Islamic Republic Of
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Very helpful. Thank you all  About the first coin, I couldn't find any similar coins in the exact dates you mentioned (but nice job reading the date! How did you do it? I don't see anything similar to number!  ). But earlier coins of Abbasid were similar, maybe a different date? From 130 till 160, because after that the script changes to something different and even after that there is a circle around it that we don't see in this coin. And about the second coin, I found something in this site: http://www.andalustonegawa.50g.com/almohads1.htmmy best guess is "Abu Ya'qub Yusuf 558-580 / 1163- 1184" Half Dinar, but I really need your confirmation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almohad_CaliphateI AM really amazed if this is true, because I'm nowhere near Spain!! |
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How did you do it? Sommoh, I'll answer your question in a minute, but first I wanted to thank you for being gracious and truly interested in the coins that you posted. Lately, we have had several new folks blow in with lots of demands and very little appreciation for our opinions. You are making up for several of them in my mind. Thanks dude. As promised, here is my thinking (as well as @Sap's, as he may very well be correct). The first image shows the which century was the minting date. You will see a detail from your coin which roughly corresponds to the region of interest and then my best hand at the Kufic number on the right.  The second image shows which decade was the minting date. This one is by far the most clear numeral.  The third image shows which individual year was the minting date. For your reference, I have included both the three and the eight. You can decide for yourself--the coin is pretty worn so I am still unsure.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Iran, Islamic Republic Of
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@spence Wow, I am really amazed. thank you for your priceless lesson. Of course I appreciate information from experts like you, all three of you I love coins. And now that my post is moved to a more appropriate forum, I'm really looking forward to seeing more comments and thoughts on these coins, specially the second one  |
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United States
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Maybe the second coin is a half dinar or dinar of the Muwahhid Dynasty (Almohads)? Sorry that I cannot be more helpful with that one.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Iran, Islamic Republic Of
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Actually it was very accurate @spence. Well done Thank you so much. |
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