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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like Die Deterioration to me. Remember. There are no rpms after 1989 because they didn't hand punch the mint mark into the die |
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wow I swear it looks double, thanks for your insight about the dating of the rpms dustin you have been outstanding in knowledge for me ....thanks again.
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It's hard to tell from the pictures, there's a lot of glare there that makes it hard to tell what's real. I think the die probably bounced after the strike.
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thanks for your thought coinmaster, it does look double or a bounce as you say. it's so hard to get pics of a shiny coin....I'm learning.
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You can use a lower watt bulb or diffuse with a sheet or two of paper. Usually you can just change the direction of the lighting - Try angling the coin. Take several pics and post the one that matches the coin.
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It is all machine damage. Note the mint mark and the tops of the date. You can see the same push on the '04' reducing the digits pushing them south. If this were a doubled die, then the digits would be enlarged. Here is an example of a doubled die on the date and the mint mark:  Note how the devices are enlarged. On the OPs coin you can see they are reduced in size. |
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Putting all other variables aside, if you want to find out if your coin is a doubled die error, take notice of the doubled image. If it is a true doubled die error, the doubled image would be raised and have a rounded look. If what you're looking at is flat and shelf-like, it's the result of an older die or loose parts that make the die rotate before a second strike. Either way you look at it, it's a nice variety of mint damage that you don't see every day.
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Sonchild, a doubled die is not an error, it is a die variety. Also, If a coin is a doubled die, there dosent have to be two of a certain device, there can be distortion and in some cases, the devices can actually be smaller than usual. And lastly, machine damage is actually quite common, that is why it does not command a premium. And it isn't the second strike that causes machine damage to happen, because buisness strike coins are only struck once, unlike proof coins that are struck twice for quality.
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Thanks for the info Dustin, but I meant it literally that you don't see Machine Doubling every day. It's a lot more common than doubled dies, but you simply won't see it every day. And if I may ask a question, how does the doubling occur in Mechanical Doubling if the planchet/coin isn't struck twice? Does the coin just slide as it's struck once, or can it also just have to do with the wear of the die? Edited by sonchild
08/21/2016 2:27 pm
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Also Dustin, if you don't mind, could you check out my thread, "Questions about the value of my off struck nickel?" I still have questions unanswered and could use some expertise.
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Die chatter,die bounce/slide all of the above its still md yes
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You were right that there is a problem with the die, it will just slightly turn as the coin is being struck, so you will see the original devices size reduced. I will check out that thread also
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....terry.
Posted 08/18/2016 10:51 pm
