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1972-D LMC Greaser OBV & Rev

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Just wondering is all this from Grease Filled Dies?

Thanks for looking.

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 Posted 08/19/2016  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it.
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 Posted 08/19/2016  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. I have one similar.
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That's a pretty nice one.
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I'd say that's a keeper! NIce find!
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 Posted 08/19/2016  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all, I appreciate it.
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The best way to tell if it is grease is to not that weaker area of the devices. When they get blocked out on the die, it leaves those areas wider? Why? The devices are tapered. (narrow at top and wider on the bottom) If they were the coin would stick every strike. So when the narrow area gets fill, only the lower part of the device (the widest part) will show as a wider device and short in height.
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 Posted 08/20/2016  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coop, not quite sure I follow everything that you wrote. ONE CENT is what has me confused because the tops and bottoms of the devices appear to be blocked and those devices in the middle are fatter coinciding with grease filled.

Can dies get blocked top and bottom like that?

OR

Is the bottom portions of these devices appearing like that from circulation?

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Well you have to consider that the die can be wiped with a cloth. it fills the devices unevenly with grease. Preventing the full strike to happen. So where there are some devices showing, that is the area of that device that was partially blocked. Where the device is very weak (and wider) that area has a large amount of blockage. On 'IN COD' you see nothing there because those devices were completely blocked with grease preventing the strike in that area. It happens. Here is a very nice example:
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These dies were almost totally filled. It was a full strike because you can see the rim edge of the die. These are the ones that get the most interest. (the more blockage, the better to error collectors)
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 Posted 08/20/2016  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again coop - Okay then from what you just wrote the tops of the ONE CENT are grease filled because what I do see of them is wider. The bottoms do not appear wider so the wear down is from circulation. Did I get it correct now?

Is you AC working now coop?
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Finally cool again.

On the coin, the tops of the devices the narrowest.

So on the die, (which is a negative) the tops of the devices are the deepest into the die. The fields on the coin is the lowest area on the coin. On the die the fields are the outside part of the die.
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The incuse devices (EPU)on the coin actually raise above the fields. Note on the cent images.

So when the die gets any grease into the die, it prevents the devices from forming. The deepest part is the tops of the coins devices. (the die is a negative) Those devices are tapered so they will release after the strike. (imagine if they weren't, the first coin struck would be stuck onto the die) So when the die gets filled then nothing shows.
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When a partial amount get into the devices, then you may see partial devices.
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You coins die had some areas partial and other areas more filled. On the coin I posted is was almost blank because the was almost totally filled.

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Thanks coop
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That is indeed a Greaser. It wouldn't demand a very high premium, but simple errors like this are definitely worth keeping.
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