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1980-D May Be Double On Reverse

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 Posted 08/22/2016  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is doubling,MD IMHO.
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That is all machine damage after the strike on the coin. How do I tell? Note on 'OF'? You can see on the top of the 'O' that the devices were reduced and not enlarged. (as well as the rest of the devices that are altered after the coin was struck)
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looks like MD
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 Posted 08/23/2016  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That is machine damage after the strike on the coin

That means the die that struck your coin jumped a little bit and struck it again. The "jump strike" was offset a little, and flattened parts of some of the design. The parts that were flattened resemble doubling somewhat. Since the flattened parts came from the original devices, the original devices are left reduced in size. This is referred to as Strike Doubling or MD. In general, it lends no extra value or collector interest.
Another form of MD is wear on the die. It too, reduces the devices and resembles doubling somewhat. What you really want to find is doubling that doesn't reduce the devices, a Doubled Die coin. On this coin, you will see a normal sized device, with doubling also, or a larger device with no apparent doubling. If you are ever in doubt what the normal sized device should be, you can usually compare your coin in question with another coin of the same denomination, year, and mint.
If you read what I have written for you enough times to fully understand what I have said, you will be well on your way in identifying the most sought after Variety coin of all, the coveted Doubled Die.
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Actually that means the coin was only struck once. Completed the strike then moved after the strike damaging the coin on the way up. This all occurred in the same strike. The die movement altered the devices. That is why I refer to them as Machine Damaged because if all happened in one strike. Nothing is doubled, it is damaged after the strike. Kind of like a door ding on your car. It happened after the car was made/sold and is now just damage on your car. It always reduces the size of the devices. On rounded devices you can see the device reduced even more.
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Gotcha Coop, thanks for the correction. I don't think I was too far off, it struck the coin normally and then moved again flattening parts of some devices all in the same strike. The bounce or "jump" actually struck the coin for the second time, all in the same mint strike. Once to make the device and once to flatten it. Correct?

That would make a fantastic video.
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 Posted 08/24/2016  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The damage after the strike is more like a kick in the shin. Something not expected, but happens. LOL Usually the adjustment of the machine is needed, to too much pressure during the strike. These MD will be random, meaning it always the same each time:
1980-D-May-Be-Double-On-Reverse Note the difference from strike to strike. (the same die marker can be seen in each image, so we know it was all from the same die)
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