Need Help Iding Early 1780 Austrial Maria Theresa Restrike

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Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 08/23/2016 4:46 pm Hi everyone, I just pulled this MTT out of a reputable dealer's melt bin. And It appears to be an earlier restrike. however, I'm having trouble IDing the mint and variety based upon the MTT website http://www.theresia.name/cgi-bin/To...cgi?Page=8). Any help would be appreciated! Report this Post to the Staff

Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 08/23/2016 5:31 pm British or Indian, I believe, which were all mid-20th century. Regardless, way too nice to be consigned to the smelter. Good catch. Colligo ergo sum Edited by Lucky Cuss 08/23/2016 5:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 08/23/2016 5:52 pm Lucky Cuss- If it were British Indian, I would be really happy! Thanks for the help. However, the shape of the broach on the Obverse is circular, Eagle's wings are of a different shape from later strikes, and the coat of arms and other reverse features point to a strike from 1780-1840 or so. I'm just not as familiar with these earlier varieties to really ID it. Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 08/23/2016 11:49 pm Update: At present I suspect that this coin is Hafner H37a, which is Venice, Italy 1817-33. Does anyone else have any guesses or suggestions? Report this Post to the Staff
wonghinghi Pillar of the Community Hong Kong 1270 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 09:32 am I compare with my MTT restrikes and quite agree it is a 37b piece. Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 08/25/2016 11:08 am wonghinghi- Thanks for the help! Yes, it does look a lot like a Hafner 37a or 37b piece. But what is the difference between a 37a and a 37b? Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 08/26/2016 03:07 am There is a new Hafner catalog coming out. I am concerned that Hafner has refused to update the new issue with the latest information. Your coin is actually( from my discoveries in the Vienna state archives.) a Guenzburg strike of 1794- 1802 vintage. That is not completely confirmed but I can 100% state it was never ever struck in Venice. The first Venice strike in 1817, as confirmed by die impressions in the archive, is Hafner 41 a modern re-strike A 37b coin has 6 pearls in the diadem 37a has 7. As you have correctly identified the coin is an early restrike. Edited by austrokiwi 08/26/2016 03:08 am Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 08/26/2016 08:36 am Wow, what a great find, then. And obviously I was way off base in my identification. I've got to get better at evaluating these. Colligo ergo sum Edited by Lucky Cuss 08/26/2016 08:42 am Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 08/26/2016 1:11 pm austrokiwi- Great! Thank you very much for the help! It's really awesome to determine the taxonomy of this coin. It looks to be a Hafner 37a (based upon the older, possibly erroneous identification) due to it having seven beads in the crown. The really awesome thing is that in January of 2013 I found a Hafner 37b (six beads in crown) in the melt bin of the very same dealer. https://goccf.com/t/138459 Report this Post to the Staff
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