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My Latest Crowns Cherub And Genius

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Here is my latest purchases and they both contain angels. One shows winged genius of France inscribing the constitution on a tablet and the other cherub and various educational instruments. I really wanted these two for quite long time at a reasonable price and this was the time.

GERMANY. Wurzburg. 2 Taler, 1786-MP. Franz Ludwig von Erthal (1779-95). NGC AU-50.
Dav-2906; KM-427. SCARCE Double Taler. An impressive design featuring a cherub and various educational instruments: Globe, book and Map upon an altar. Pleasing granite tone. NGC AU-50

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FRANCE. Ecu (6 Livres), 1792-A. Louis XVI (1774-93). NGC AU-55.
KM-615.1; Dav-1335; Gad-55. A momentous year in French history, with the revolution opening up unabated followed by the fall of the monarchy in the summer of 1792.
Thick glossy dark gray patination atop original surfaces. Well struck with light even wear and flawless rims. NGC AU-55.

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The 2 thaler is really thick and is housed in an extra thick NGC slab, see the difference with a regular slab. Any idea how I can find the wight and thickness of the coin ? None of the sources including Krause show the weight.

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 Posted 08/26/2016  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@plonker, sorry to state the obvious, but are you opposed to cracking out the 2 taler from her plastic tomb, let her breathe a little, and then measure the mass and diameter yourself?

Great coins by the way!
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 Posted 08/27/2016  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin, both. Congratulations.

Here is another example of the Würzbug Doppeltaler for weight reference:

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This example, per catalogue description, weighs 56,14 grams:

DEUTSCHE MÜNZEN UND MEDAILLEN
WÜRZBURG
Franz Ludwig von Erthal, 1779-1795
Doppelter Konv.-Taler 1786, Würzburg. Prämie. 56,14 g. Dav. 2906; Helmschrott 880.
Prachtexemplar mit herrlicher Tönung. Vorzüglich-Stempelglanz.

It is not the actual weight specification for the coin, but probably very close to that so you get an idea what the coin is supposed to weigh.
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 Posted 08/27/2016  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting coin, congratulations on picking them up.

Sounds like that 2 Taler would be like having a coin the size of
two Morgan's stacked together.
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Two superb additions to your world crown collection, plonker!
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Thank you guys.
@GERMENICVS, appreciate the reference.

@spence, I would like to take it out but dont know how to do it safely. I would love to see the edge. Also I would rather keep it in the slab as it is easy to store.

@GR58, I think the diameter is smaller than usual crown size coins but it is definitely thick.
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