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Fake Lima Pillar 1772 8 Reales

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 Posted 08/31/2016  06:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is the common Made in China crap .
Hopefully the seller will be suspended as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mexico-pill...262600364671

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He already earned 400 USD with this crap (retail price of those is below 5 USD)
http://www.ebay.com/sch/yongjihua22898/m.html
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09/02/2016 09:01 am
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Mexico didn't make Pillar Dollars in 1772, but this coin purports to be from Lima, Peru and is really quite close to what regal coins look like. The dies are different than for Mexico. I do see some things that raise red flags but I wondered what tipped the scales for you to say this is an obvious fake?
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Reported.
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Pistareen : fixed my title.
As to what tipped me - I'm too used to see those low quality copies, they sell for a buck or two in China .
Flat / dull field, almost no denticles, details missing sharpness, etc .
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As to what tipped me - I'm too used to see those low quality copies, they sell for a buck or two in China .
Flat / dull field, almost no denticles, details missing sharpness, etc .


I wouldn't exactly call them low quality copies. We are just very used to seeing them, but when they first came around even seasoned collectors were fooled at first, because everyone was mostly used to seeing low quality flea market type copies. These are comparatively high quality and often made of solid silver
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Indeed - I called those low quality compared to the better one they now make.
I was among those fooled by those copies when I started, indeed.
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I posted this Lima 1772 double-dot a while ago in this forum.

https://goccf.com/t/242490&SearchTerms=lima,1772

I was concerned about it authenticity as I was aware that fakes exist of this specific variety (8 R, 1772, double dot) .
The overall opinions were positive when I posted it.
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Then, there are these (2) pieces. Note that there is a definite link to the above fakes due to the presence of identical "post-mint" type marks. However, it's possible these two following pieces COULD be the same specimen before/after some fake toning. Also possible one or the other (or just "it" if those are the same piece) could be the model (genuine) coin for the Chinese fakes... just not sure.
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03/29/2021 05:07 am
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