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What justifies each? Let's say you put a coin in a folder or some kind of a holder and in a few month/years it turns a rainbow color,AT or NT? What if you put a coin in a napkin knowing it will change the color of the coin,AT or NT? Just wondering. Thanks all,
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I think BadThad has it right. There is really no sense debating whether toning is natural or artificial. The only discussion is whether the toning is market acceptable or not.

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Thanks jbuck for the links. In your opinion,if I put coins in a paper envelope not knowing it would tone the coins and the coins did tone is that AT or NT or does it still depend on eye appeal? Thanks much,
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This could be a good highlight clickable for all to learn.
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Once you wander into the high grass of toned coins with a raw example, you are pretty much on your own.
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In your opinion,if I put coins in a paper envelope not knowing it would tone the coins and the coins did tone is that AT or NT or does it still depend on eye appeal?
Again, I think the terms AT and NT are now meaningless, so it would depend on the eye appeal to a buyer. Does it look good and are you willing to spend money for it. Sure, some people may be biased if they think it is artificial and they may be right. The things that are quickly (dare I say purposely?) toned tend to have less eye appeal, hence the unwillingness to let go of the AT/NT paradigm.

With all that said, show us what you got!
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I already took 14 picks of two coins with no luck showing the toning. I will keep trying and if I get a good shot I will post.
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Getting a decent shot of a toned coin is a true skill. I have found holding the coin at a slight angle with light directly above helps a little.

This is at an angle.
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This is taken straight on. It's the same coin.
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Here goes,

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I would call that 2006 Canadian Cent market acceptable....looks like a nice coin.
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Getting a decent shot of a toned coin is a true skill. I have found holding the coin at a slight angle with light directly above helps a little.


I use angle to bring out toning. It works very well. What also works is changing the angle of the light and the camera.

This is the same coin, I simply moved the light so it cut through the patina:

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Thanks BadThad,the other side looks just as good. I have more LMC's then Canadian's that look like this if not better.I am glad that those envelopes didn't ruin the coins.
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Here's another example of moving the light and changing the camera angle to capture toning:



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Looks like that one spent some time with a blowtorch Raymo
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