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Is This A Loose Leg?

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 Posted 09/12/2016  2:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pennyante to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
2005 Buffalo nickel I know there was some minted with what appeared to
be one leg not attached.Think this is one of them?

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 Posted 09/12/2016  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. I have heard about the variety you are talking about. It is known as the detached leg. And I think you have it
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 Posted 09/12/2016  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


There is a detached leg error, but that isn't it. I can still see where that one is attached. That is the correct leg though!
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 Posted 09/12/2016  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To give you an idea of their value, a recent ebay auction of one certified ANACS MS 65 sold for $8.50.
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 Posted 09/12/2016  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it is suffering from over polishing of the die. Given a cutesie name to make it seem valuable. Just another example of an over polished die issue that some think as an error.
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 Posted 09/12/2016  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about the 3 legged Buffalo nickel? Or the Two Feathers? Missing designer initials on certain dates, etc. Those coins are highly valued. Their "cutesie" names were given to them by your peers Coop. The names are excellent identifiers. All the books and websites call them Over-polished Die Errors. Is there not room for these?
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 Posted 09/13/2016  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

They are all the same thing as well. I just don't give much time to over polished die items. The devices were there when the die was fresh, not someone has polished them away. Just not my cup of tea. I like die varieties. Not events that dies go through. Give me something like this:
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This one was on a site as a normal coin. Of course, I can't afford it.
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What about the 3 legged Buffalo nickel? Or the Two Feathers? Missing designer initials on certain dates, etc. Those coins are highly valued. Their "cutesie" names were given to them by your peers Coop. The names are excellent identifiers. All the books and websites call them Over-polished Die Errors. Is there not room for these?

Major die polishing, where whole details are removed such as the 1937-D 3 legged Buffalo nickel are very noticeable errors. Dealers today seem quick to jump on the error train with any tiny detail that may be different. When the 2005 Buffalo nickel came out, everyone was looking for a leg error just because of what happened in 1937. The "Speared Buffalo" is another error that wouldn't be any more than a die gouge on any other coin, is now a collectable error.
I guess part of what makes some of today's errors collectable is the way they are promoted by dealers.
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Their "cutesie" names were given to them by your peers

No, the names were coined(pun intended) by marketing hucksters in a time period when very few people actually understood the die creation and minting process(see Frank Spadone's infamous "error" book). I have read some old literature that actually attributed the 3 legged Buffalo nickel to a die engraver simply not finishing the job
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From the point of view of a Newbie (less than a year) I thrive on these die events. When I first started I had no idea ow to tell DDO / DDR's. As most of you know from my early posts everything a posted was MD or Die Deterioration Doubling. It hasn't been until the last 3 or 4 months that I have learned enough to start identifying the good ones. But, what kept me going was when I found the silly die Cracks, Chips and the missing devices from either over-polishing or a Greaser and I love to find the BIE die breaks, they can be really challenging to identify. It is better to find something rather than nothing, otherwise I think I would have given up from discouragement.

I also think it has helped me learn/understand more about the coins, because when I post them coop and others reply with such great detail on how and why it occurred - this education related directly to your coin is the best learning there is. I am sure I will out grow this stage of cracks/chips etc - but it sure is fun finding these little die events.
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Thanks Guys! I appreciate your input!!
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 Posted 09/13/2016  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The BIE cent and the BAR nickel were both named many years ago by professionals in an effort to promote interest in our hobby. They are still collected by many, as are Cuds, Cracks, Clashes, etc. Events that happened to dies when being manufactured as well as after manufactured result in collected coins. We are all entitled to collect what we want. My favorite is the Doubled Die, but I also like a nice Prisoner Cent. When I see someone's coin that I don't like I still respect their right to collect it. It may not be an upper tier collectable, but the true value lies with the owner.
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 Posted 09/14/2016  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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We are all entitled to collect what we want. My favorite is the Doubled Die, but I also like a nice Prisoner Cent. When I see someone's coin that I don't like I still respect their right to collect it. It may not be an upper tier collectable, but the true value lies with the owner.

Very well said!
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