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Edited by cwb
09/14/2016 9:26 pm
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Tough call on this one. The locations are a match for WDDR-001 & 003. The mint mark shape matches the WDDR-003 But the hub doubling seem to match more the WDDR-001? (note the dots are turned a bit different on the 001 & 003. Coppercoins dots match the WDDR-001? The doubling on the left wheat lines? Is it there on your coin?
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Either way a very nice coin!
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The doubling on the left wheat lines? Is it there on your coin? Yes, it's there on my coin, but I can't seem to capture it with the camera I have right now. On the first image of WDDR-003, I think the dot has taken a hit on the lower right side. The rest of the images show doubling to the lower left. |
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Just curious cwb. Are the dots what what made you realize it was a DDR ? |
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But the angle is correct for WDDR-001 despite the hit that only affected the lower tip of the dot. The other dots are also angled.
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Quote: Just curious cwb. Are the dots what what made you realize it was a DDR ? My first clue on this one was the roll I took it from. It was marked 1941 P D S DDR, but yes, the dots are one of the devices I usually look at when searching for doubled dies. They are either round, like they are supposed to be, or not. I look for thick lettering, the obvious doubled devices, and notching on the edges of the lettering. |
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I guess the first clue would make it a little easier to spot one. Nice find. Sounds like you will be finding more.
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Yes, nearly every one I have looked at so far. Took a chance on a roll from ebay, you never know what you will get from there sometimes. The seller stated that they were doubled dies, but you don't know that until you see them in person. COOP - Those two or three DDR's are so close it is difficult to tell them apart. I am looking for die markers, but I keep getting interrupted (sometimes I think I live at the crazy farm) and the coin is so worn I may not find any. The major die crack on the reverse of the WDDR-003 is not on my coin, but it could just be a different die state. |
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I did an overlay of the die crack on Wexler's 003 and the chip looks like a match on my coin, the crack isn't there though.  |
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Yes it could be a different die state. If you have a whole roll, it would be worth sending one off for attribution, for the good of all. Nice acquisition!  x50 |
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If you have a whole roll I got a whole roll, but they are all different, even some from all three mints. To my surprise, they are all decent coins too. |
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Here is what I notice different between these three dies:  The dot angles look like the coppercoins 1941S-1DR-002. The Wexler dies look like different die examples to me. |
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Sounds like you got a really nice deal. At least there's no doubt about the legitimacy of this one. Just a question of which number. If I didn't have a few more like this one, I'd happily put it in a holder. write DDR on it, go to the next one, and then the next 48! Edit: I type so slow I missed Coop's post. I guess I'd write 002 on it. Edited by CoinMasters
09/15/2016 11:55 pm
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An overlay of the die crack on Wexler's 003 and the chip match up to my coin perfectly. After I did the overlay, I can even see a hairline crack starting on my coin that follows the path of the WDDR-003. The images Wexler used on this example show some damage to the coin, particularly the dots. I think that may be why they look so different. I almost wonder if the Copper Coin's 001 isn't an earlier die state of the same die.
Any idea what happened to the mint mark on the Copper Coins example?
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With all the wideness of the coin showing, it looks like that area of the die was filled with grease and debris. Thus the mint mark shape is not there, but the outline is. Just like what you would see on a grease/debris fill.
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