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ok, so I was fumbling around on the world wide interweb (haha) and was looking at pyramid coins... not the commonly known ones from poopjoy mint / isle of man flat king Tutankhamen triangle coins, but fully 3d pyramid-shaped coins. nice idea because you get a really pyramid-shaped coin. website is "coin update", daily coin collection news. the site promotes the coins altho you can't actually buy them from the site, you have to hunt around for them. ok. on the bottom of the pyramid, there is an effigy of the Queen Elizabeth II, ad says that the image was "created by sculpter Ian Rank-Broadly". so what is the big deal? if you go down to the comments, you will see one that is allegedly from Ian Rank-Broadly himself, who basically says he has nothing to do with this image and it was a poor imitation, to which the website rep replied that they will take the matter up with the minter, which, by the way, is "the mint of Poland", haha, no offense to you polish folks out there. take a look... http://news.coinupdate.com/niue-the...-coins-4437/huh? I noticed that the listing was in 2014 and Ian's comment was the last one, followed up by the response. weird, or what? they look like the real deal, personally I have never seen one before. maybe after Ian commentated, the mint of Poland pulled the series...? Edited by 4504
09/20/2016 5:57 pm
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another thing that may be weird is that they come in 3 versions... silver .999, proof and "antique" for the two silver ones, and a gold plated .999 silver one. but they all have the same weight... 93.3 grams. being suspicious, I would think the gold-plated one would have a slightly different weight than the just-silver one. I also think it is just slightly funny that while the "coins" have a $15 "dollar" value imprinted in them, nowhere does it say they are legal tender. besides, anything british with the queen on it, like the king Tutankhamun triangle coins lists the wording of the value of their coins in "crowns" (not "dollars"). maybe because they were minted in Poland? I am not saying these are not legitimate, but this kind of stuff drives me koo-koo  |
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the gold plated silver one is listed as "BU" (brilliant uncirculated). "proof" and "antique" for the silver-only ones. well, at least they have the silver symbol "AG" on them, as well as the fineness...
don't get me wrong, I like the fully 3d pyramid-shaped concept instead of a boring flat coin... ok, the flat ones are not all boring...
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United States
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after two years and counting, the follow-up to ian's comment is a little slow in coming...
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United States
379 Posts |
and what is Queen Elizabeth II on there anyways (like she is on the isle of man coins), is Poland a commonwealth of England or something?
ok, I am not trashing these coins or whatever they are, I think the fully 3d idea or concept is fresh and interesting...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These are produced by the Mint of Poland, but are being produced on behalf of Niue/New Zealand: Quote:
Niue, whose capital is the village of Alofi, is a self-governing state in free association with New Zealand; and New Zealand conducts most diplomatic relations on its behalf. Niueans are citizens of New Zealand, and Queen Elizabeth II is head of state in her capacity as Queen of New Zealand That's why Queen Elizabeth is on it. I like my Fortuna Redux cylinder coin, but now we're just getting a bit silly here... |
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actually, I am little past being a bit silly... between moderate to severe silly I would guess, depending on my meds...
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09/20/2016 5:55 pm
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United States
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I would think the gold-plated one would have a slightly different weight than the just-silver one. It probably does, but the added weight is not enough to change the overall weight when weighed to just one decimal point. It's like some of those copy gold buffalo $50 coins that are plated with "31.1 mg of of 24 KT pure gold!". 31.1 mg is .0311 grams. Add that to a 93.1 gram silver coin and your final weight to one decimal point is....93.1 grams. Quote:
I also think it is just slightly funny that while the "coins" have a $15 "dollar" value imprinted in them, nowhere does it say they are legal tender. besides, anything british with the queen on it, like the king Tutankhamun triangle coins lists the wording of the value of their coins in "crowns" (not "dollars"). maybe because they were minted in Poland? True, but these are not British they're Nuie. And I would guess that 6 oz King Tutankhamun coin isn't British either (Nope Isle of Man, a British commonwealth country, but not British.). (Other countries use Crown as a denomination as well.) As for being minted at the Polish mint, most small countries do not have their own mints and contract out for their coinage with either other government mints, or in some cases with private mints. |
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thanks Condor, that straightens it up... mike
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Lizzy is still the monarch of Niue as we speak, that's why she's on the coin. Like Lizzy is monarch of about half the world, by the way, including Isle of Man. That doesn't mean that she's in any way involved in the daily government of any of those places, by the way. It's more or less a formal role. Nowadays a lot of mints mint coins for whatever order they can, just to survive: a lot aren't government owned, but private businesses nowadays. The Dutch Royal Mint almost went bankrupt earlier this year due to a failed delivery for some Latin American country, for example. The Royal Norwegian Mint has been sold off by the government to a private company quite some years ago and now exists as The Norwegian Coinworks and continues to strike Norwegian and other coins, for example. As I travel a lot, I do encounter a lot of coins in a lot of countries which are minted abroad. It's actually quite something that the USA has more than one coin and still strikes all coins within its own borders. Just to give you one example, I was in Sri Lanka a few weeks ago (horrible corrupt country, can't recommend to visit), and the coins in circulation there have been minted by: - The Royal Mint at Llantrisant in Wales, - the Royal Canadian Mint, - the Mincovna Kremnica in the Slovak Republic, - the Koninklijke Nederlandse Munt in Utrecht, The Netherlands, and - The Mint of Finland Ltd. Five different mints for six different coins. So yes, quite international, I'd say... oh, and usually mints don't decide what coins look like. They just get an order and execute it. |
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The Mint of Poland is a private company and has been such since (I think) 1994. They are under contract to mint Polish coins, Isle of Man coins, and a large number of other countries, Principalities, and small glades in dark forests.
I think they did the DNA series too.
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