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Valued Member
United States
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I've been searching for a good deal on this coin for a while and I think I got one. Sellers pictures, what do you think about grade and value? Thanks! Next I want a XF Illinois half   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Tough to call from these pics. Obviously worn, but I'm concerned about what appear to be discolored areas on the head and collar. It does not particularly impress - I would not buy without much better photos.  |
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 United States
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For $70 from a 6 feedback seller, I'd be wondering...I believe the market value for these is much higher. The seller listed it once before for $90 buy it now and got no takers. This is the seller's FIRST coin sale. Those "discolored areas" sure do look like rust. The overall dark color is the common color of Chinese fakes. The photos aren't good or large enough to do a good comparison with a genuine coin.
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Valued Member
 United States
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I picked it up for $49; if it does end up being a fake coin when I have it in hand, what options do I have for recourse?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Does the seller take returns?
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New Member
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Mint State 60, no more than 62. Actually, it is bordering AU.
Edited by Space22
09/21/2016 11:38 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
United States
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As others have noted, the seller's images make it difficult to determine the authenticity of the piece. That said, I am leaning toward it being a counterfeit. Some of the lettering on the obverse seems suspect - the "1922" under Grant's portrait does not seem to match with genuine coins. Also, I can't see Laura Gardin Fraser's initial below the Grant portrait. Laura designed the coin and included her mark below the portrait. If the piece does not have her initial in that location, it is definitely a counterfeit. (The missing initial is a known diagnostic for this issue.) Keep us informed! Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm kicking myself now, seller does not take returns. Hopefully eBay/PayPal have an option for refunding fake items?
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
United States
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Hopefully eBay/PayPal have an option for refunding fake items? ebay's Buyer Protection policies will come into play here if the coin does turn out to be a fake. Post clear images once the coin arrives - folks here will then be able to better determine its genuineness. If it is indeed a fake, you should be able to work directly with ebay to get your money back. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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United States
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I'm late to the party ... adding as well my concerns about authenticity. There are quite a few counterfeit classic silver commemorative out there ... and the counterfeit Grant issue appears with some regularity on ebay. Adding one piece of detail to commems comments ... Laura Gardin Fraser initial under the obverse portrait is incuse on a genuine example ... it's difficult to counterfeit an incuse object. Return policy or not .... you can get your money back (if the example is indeed counterfeit) by opening an ebay claim as SNAD. I'd be interested in an accurate weight and in-focus photographs once you get the coin in hand ... then we can really help you on a determination of authenticity. David |
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks for all your help everyone! I'm hoping for the best but if not it will be a great learning experience
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Valued Member
United States
384 Posts |
Have not received the coin yet, but do you have a picture of the initials and where they should be?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
nickelsearcher is correct. Suggest you start by contacting the seller and saying that you would like to return the coin, but will file a SNAD claim with ebay if he does not agree. Chances are he will square with you rather than face a hassle. You must do this (and await a couple of days for a reply) before contacting ebay. Take it slow and easy and keep us informed.   |
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United States
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FREE ADVICE: Returning a coin (or any product) to a seller that "does not accept returns" should always be done within the framework of ebay's Money Back Guarantee program, regardless of what the seller says or promises. If you return the coin on your own, and the seller does not refund, then you have to open a case anyway. What possible benefit is there (for you, the buyer) to conducting the return without involving ebay? If a seller sells you a counterfeit coin, why take risks of additional hassles? The ebay MBG is easy and makes sure you get your refund. If you return it, be SURE to get online viewable tracking. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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United States
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Is this the listing from which you obtained the coin? 182284007884The photos match exactly to what you posted. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Valued Member
United States
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Yes that is the listing but I got a buy it now offer for $49
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