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 Posted 09/23/2016  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That 1799 Heraldic Eagle Reverse is a wonderful example of the coin in VF condition.
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 Posted 09/23/2016  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@eagle_eye_18

Possibly one of the more numismatic treasures of the 19th century is the 1828 10c JR-1

A true rarity in MS rating an R-8.7 and only 44 known examples graded by PCGS and NGC. They come up maybe once or twice a decade at the big auction houses.

The only one on the market right now is $1250 in an NGC MS61 holder. I might buy this myself out of pure impulse.

http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=26671256

I have a legit VF30/35 raw of this coin and if you think MS grade level is difficult, try circulated and truly problem free. Its near impossible.

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As a fellow Seated freak, I would also recommend something along of the lines of any of the rare San Francisco Mint issue Liberty Seated dimes such as the 1858-S, 1860-S or the very elusive 1869-S 10c if you can even find one. PCGS has graded 5 in MS63 and not one has ever come to auction. An MS62 came to auction 16 years ago. 1871-S is also a good choice.

In any event, congrats on your successes so far and please keep us posted with pics when you acquire your coin.
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 Posted 09/26/2016  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd go with an 1877 Indian cent in FULL XF-40 XF-45 condition. When I say full XF I mean full lower ribbon and nice feathers. Don't buy the over graded VFs out there.
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 Posted 09/26/2016  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd avoid gold as anything below $10K is common. Draped bust dollars are good in VF for $2K. You can get halves and go to XF-45 for $2K. You can also buy quite a number of decent US patterns in the $2K range. Most of these are ridiculously rare compared to a $20 Saint for the same money. Its just that there are so few pattern collectors anymore, so low supply and low demand conspire. Similarly, a coin like the 1909-S VDB cent is a high supply, high demand coin which keeps the price high. 1909-S VDBs could become even more popular, or a few more collectors of patterns might come into being at some point. Which is more likely to happen?
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 Posted 09/26/2016  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those Draped Bust dollars with heraldic reverse can be had for around $2000 in VF. Which are your favorite patterns you feel are overlooked and undervalued?
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 Posted 09/26/2016  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davec13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you really want something that not many people have save up some more and buy some nice gold.
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barryg those are some nice coins. I'll see you 09s vdb in 64rb and raise you to a 64rd.


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While not expensive proof Indian Head cents look really nice too.
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 Posted 10/02/2016  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All nice coins. I think any 18th century coin has a certain something that marks it as a gem. The gold 1799 $10 gold piece is just in a class by itself. I would like to get me a 1798-99 Draped Bust dollar in VF-EF condition because I might be able to afford these.
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While not expensive proof Indian Head cents look really nice too.


Why, yes. Yes, they do!

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 Posted 10/03/2016  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much are Indian Head proofs?
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 Posted 10/03/2016  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mine cost me $450 a couple of years ago. I'm sure you could find better examples for more money.
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The only one on the market right now is $1250 in an NGC MS61 holder. I might buy this myself out of pure impulse.

http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=26671256


True to my impulses...yes, I got it...



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 Posted 10/03/2016  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bravo! That one is much nicer than my VF25 example (and a lot more expensive, to boot)!
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 Posted 10/03/2016  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great topic and Great coins and opinions. If you look at the registries for type sets you can see that almost everyone needs nice pre-1835 type. Nice Bust copper is always good type and darned scarce in 40 and above with no details.
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 Posted 10/04/2016  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davec13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How much are Indian Head proofs?


I'm with Barryg on the price. I think I payed around $400 for it. I have other classic proof coins and there really doesn't seem to be a huge demand for them. When you do find them you can usually get a pretty decent deal.

My 1889 according to numismedia FMV is $438, the same year and condition business strike had a FMV of $219. The business strike had a mintage of just under 49 million, the proof has a mintage of 3,336 Looking at the mintage numbers most people assume classic proofs would be out of their price range, but in reality they are cheap (unfortunately).

If you really want a classic proof I would consider watching heritage. Typically they have a couple on the Tuesday and Sunday auctions. Just remember the buyer premium if you go that route.
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Dave, why do you say unfortunately for the cheap price of proofs?
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