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Fingerprints, Complements Of PCGS !!

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 Posted 12/10/2016  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coinlover168, it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to make such a justification. However, the risk of finger contamination is far greater in my opinion. If everyone there handling coins had to wear gloves, then this thread wouldn't exist. If they're so worried about dropping coins, then they can handle them over a non-damaging surface. I think the real reason they don't wear gloves and masks is that they just don't care enough to make the effort. After all, they're not their coins that will show spots and prints in the future.
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 Posted 12/10/2016  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe the Graders themselves put the prints on the coins otherwise the grades given would have been higher.
These 25mm silver proofs usually grade between PR68-PR70 with PR69 being the usual grade achieved and about 10% making PR70.
The highest grade out the 10 of these coins submitted was PR68 and the lowest was PR66, This is telling me that the coins were "Mishandled" somewhere between being received and being graded as the coins were flawless when I sent them in.
I truly think that the prints were put on the coins somewhere in the chain between receiving the coins and them being graded.
I have had well over a thousand coins graded by PCGS and if the graders not wearing gloves was causing this fingerprint problem then I would have had a lot more problem submissions.

In this case something has gone horribly wrong between PCGS receiving my coins and the grading room, Remember the coins sit there for quite some time before they finally get graded.
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 Posted 12/10/2016  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover168 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
trout, how did you package your coins for submissions, flips or capsules?
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 Posted 12/10/2016  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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trout, how did you package your coins for submissions, flips or capsules?


These coins come from the Mint housed in air tights.
I carefully remove them from the capsules using gloves, like I have on hundreds of other occasions and put them into saflips.
Then I fold the saflips in half to close them and put the sticker with the sub# and line# on so that it also locks the flip closed.
The flips are then put into an archival quality binder page in sequence.
The page is then folded and secured with tape before being put into a padded posting envelope ready for submission.

I have used the exact same procedure for many hundreds of coins without ANY problems in the past.
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 Posted 12/10/2016  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover168 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was asking because I believe for capsuled coins, they remove them and put them in saflips themselves, and this step might pose a risk of finger prints before the graders see the coins.

Hmmm... What other possibilities could there be?
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