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@UltraRant
Thanks for the detailed, educational, informative and very interesting post above.
My first thoughts after reading it: It's very obvious that protectionism is bad for the consumer, Norwegians either don't recognize it or they just don't care. Norway can probably afford it because of the revenues from the North Sea oil.
0,5 liter bottle of Coca Cola in Gerany: 0,89 Euro (US-$ 1,00) in most supermarkets (plus a ''recycling deposit'' of 0,15 or 0,25 Euro depending on the type of bottle. Money will be returned when returning at proper facility).
By the way, a 1 Liter Coca Cola bottle usually costs 95 Cent (plus Pfand), and Aldi and some other chains sell 1,25 Liter Coca Cola bottles for 89 Cent (plus Pfand).
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10/29/2016 02:59 am
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I know, the famous 'Pfand', or 'pant' in Norwegian, Swedish and Danish, 'statiegeld' in Dutch. I do believe some American states also have endorsed the principle.
The actual problem isn't that Norway could afford it or that Norwegians don't care, the actual problem is that Norwegians are made afraid of foreign stuff by the farmers union, which still has a huge influence here (among others represented in parliament as Center Party). They could take Sweden as example, where also the collapse of the agricultural sector was predicted (didn't happen) or the end of the Systembolaget (government controlled alcohol monopoly) when the rules got less strict. Didn't happen either.
There'd still be enough reason left why Norway wouldn't join the EU, so they could just open up the market for all the good stuff this world has to offer. First of all, Norway is whaling, which has to stop instantly when Norway wants to join. Second, Norway has the 'National Pension Fund', consisting of trillions of oil dollars and invested in stock and shares world wide, in preparation of the day the oil wells run dry. The EU already made a lot of plans on how to confiscate this and redistribute. Using it to pay off all the Greek debts was even seriously discussed. Guess what: that isn't popular in Norway either.
Anyway, we're not here to discuss Norwegian politics, let's keep it focused on the new Swedish KronOr!
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10/28/2016 06:07 am
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just like here with using cheaper production methods
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Just returned from a trip to Sweden and had to really talk the shop attendants into giving me the new change. Without persuasion, the harvest would be old coins only. However, I now have 3 new 5 KronOr pieces and 1 new 1 Krona. The only shop not being stocked with the new KronOrs was ICA in Strømstad. Still looking for the new 2 KronOr coins, but it can wait until next time. The good news is, my new coins come straight from the roll.  When will the 100 Kronor note be replaced, by the way? |
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When will the 100 Kronor note be replaced, by the way? Starting October 3rd, 2016 According to the latest statistic by the Riksbank there were 6,08 Million new 100kr in circulation on Oct. 31, 2016 (and 47,47 Mio. old ones). By the way, nice haul 19 Million new 2kr were in circulation on Oct. 31, 2016. Next time you'll certainly find some. Edited by redlock
11/05/2016 04:21 am
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Since I've been gone for most pasts of last week I haen't been able to see the circulation ongoing but nice to hear they've reached the outer parts of the country. Speaking of brand new coins, I received my first what-could-be circulated 1-kr coins today. At a hardware store I got two in change, both of which had very obvious brown obligatory copper toning marks. They also have a fair amount of nicks and fingerprint marks. This is what I meant with fun to have more coin types out in circulation. In addition to those 2 1-kr coins (note that it wasn't a single 2-kr coin), I got a not-so common 5-kr coin from 1972 and a common, 2001+ 10-kr coin. Three different colours, unusual combination of types and a not-so common coin given in change. I will miss this, I'm sure. Quote:
Still looking for the new 2 KronOr coins I suppose we can fix that. I've started getting a bunch, ready for anything but spending.  |
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Interesting, I find the new Swedish coins ok, but am surprised they have left the old ones circulating so long.
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Check that 5 kronOr coin for a rare variant: the 1972 is known to have a few coins without the lines behind the lion on the shield. As said, keep your eyes open: the coming months will be a great time for rare finds! I'm surprised that there are supposed to be so many new 100 kronOr notes in circulation already. I've only seen the old ones around, even though I visited in November. Next mission to Sweden will probably be in December or so, some pre-Christmas shopping again and stocking up groceries. That'll be a great opportunity to acquire the new 2 kronOr coin. |
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I'm surprised that there are supposed to be so many new 100 kronOr notes in circulation already. I've only seen the old ones around, even though I visited in November. Perhaps, it is a ''regional thing:'' Meaning that the new notes are concentrated in certain areas but haven't (obviously) not reached the entire country. It took quite some time until I saw the first second series €5 banknotes while others reported finding them rather soon. Edited by redlock
11/11/2016 03:07 am
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Ah yes, the new series 5 Euro bank notes really took their time. In fact, they still haven't made it to Norway. Anyway, I do remember it also took quite a bit of time before they were properly in circulation in The Netherlands. I guess I'll be finally holding a new note during my next visit... |
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Check that 5 kronOr coin for a rare variant: the 1972 is known to have a few coins without the lines behind the lion on the shield. Part of my instinct since quite some time ago Quote:
keep your eyes open: the coming months will be a great time for rare finds! I'm always on the hunt Quote:
the new series 5 Euro bank notes really took their time. In fact, they still haven't made it to Norway Really? Well, apart from the obvious, no circulation in Non-euro-land, they aren't very common otherwhere? I remember early on, still in 2013, they had reached exchange offices. Next time I went to the Eurozone (Amsterdam, summer 2014) they seemed to have taken over. As for the circulation of the new 100 kr note, I haven't got them anywhere else than from ATMs dispensing new notes. They have yet to appear in circulation, or atleast for me to see. On the topic of new Swedish coins, all of my previous sources where I got them seems to have dried up already. None at my local supermarket that used to have plenty of them. With my spying eye I've seen some in other tills but I haven't got any at those times. We're now over a month into the coin exchange and all I'm getting now is old coins. I suppose things will change soon enough. In other news, I don't think I've said this but apparently (I've never witnessed this) shops have seen a large increase of people spending large amounts of coins to get rid of them, and this has led to "the commercial powers" to plead for the introduction of a law that limits coin payments to up to max 25 coins per purchase. I've already seen a shop enforcing this as their policy. I suppose going from handling little cash to getting a surge of coins has to be terrible, not like they got that amount of coins regularily 10 years ago  Edited by X2an
11/12/2016 1:40 pm
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Really? Well, apart from the obvious, no circulation in Non-euro-land, 'That was the joke'.  I haven't seen a single old note in circulation in the Eurozone for quite some time now. I've only seen the new ones around for at least a year, at least in the places I visited. |
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It's been a little while since last circulation report and things have changed a little since. The new coins are starting to take some ground. While shopping yeesterday an older man paid for postage and got some new coins in change. He almost missed grabbing them and a fellow queuer picked the change up and gave it to him, commenting on how strange they were to her in the process. Next person in the queue, an older lady, was paying for something and was about to pay the rest of her due in coins. In her hand she had two or three new 5-kr coins and a single old one, which she spent. Myself, I got a new 5-kr coin in change then. Earlier on I saw that one till in a cash register only consisted of new 5-kr coins, maybe only 10 left. Before this I have got several new 1-kr coins in change accompanied with old 5-kr coins, and occationally new 1-kr coins. No 2-kr coins. I've now also got my first evidently circulated 1-kr coin, with a more reddish colour with several nicks on the surface. The new coins are circulating it seems |
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Nice!
Any interesting finds in 'old' coins so far?
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