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OK, Here is another example of my poor picture skills, but maybe with the info I provide, members more experienced than me will know exactly what type of counterfeit? Or maybe some oft chance it's genuine? It weighs in about 26.6 grams (a bit too light I would think). The obverse & reverse look good to me but I may be wrong. It does not have quite the right silver ring sound, it's SG is 10.1 if I did it right, but it was my first attempt at SG tests, and the big thing that looks wrong to me is the edging. I will try and include the best pics I could get of the edges. I'm fairly certain it's counterfeit, but from when? And ideas? @swamperbob @realeswatcher or @Lucky Cuss ? Thanks!    |
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Trying to load another one of the edge  |
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United States
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What you're showing of the edge almost looks more like a removed mount mark... but those pics are way to small to tell anything conclusively.
Aside from that, I'm just gonna say that you have to develop a better feel for the diagnostics. Start, for this current example, by going into auction archives and comparing to known genuine pieces.
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United States
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yes, realeswatcher you might be right, I had not thought of that. I bought the coin on ebay & already sent it back today to be within the 14 day return period. The seller had no problem with me returning it, so that's good. The coin was $75 plus shipping and also had where someone started to drill a small hole on the Cap & Ray side, but it did not go all the way through (I almost didn't buy it because of that, it would have been an almost worthless coin if a hole was completely through it IMHO). The only reason I wanted it is because of the date, 1848. I'm trying to do a one a year set of the Cap & Rays and that's one of the four years I do not have. After I sent it back, I was thinking maybe the edge had been filed some and that would explain it, but maybe it was in some sort of jewelry mount and flattened it. The more I think about it, the more I do think it could easily have been genuine. Now that I'm getting the hang of SG testing, I need to go back and test all of my Cap & Rays that I have any doubts on. I must say it's been frustrating on some of the earlier dates especially determining if they are "real" or not. Through a lot of reading on this forum's past posts of a myriad of swamperbob's and others like yourself's testing methods, it has helped quite a lot. I just have to keep at it. And find out how to take better pictures and post them here too. I use a digital camera, but my son used his phone a few weeks ago on another coin & got much better pics & also he didn't have a problem loading them onto this site. I always have to use the "file optimizer" here and I just can't get the hang of it. Not too good with computers as you can tell and that's not good in today's world for sure. Thanks for your help though. And hopefully I'll find another 1848 that doesn't have a hole started either. |
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Are you looking for any Mexico mint cap and ray dated 1848?
What other three dates are you missing ?
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yes, jfransch . Missing the 1823, 1827. 1848, and 1866. the first and last dates are wishful thinking right now due to their prices, but searching for the other two dates in 8 reales.
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Among the most common of issues for that year. I see nothing visually that really raises a red flag for me. Also, weight and measured specific gravity are good enough to rather strongly indicate it's genuine rather than a contemporary circulating counterfeit, and it's almost certainly not a modern forgery. That said, somewhere along the line somebody might have been suspicious of its authenticity, as that drilled spot may well have been to see if the composition was uniform (that is, not silver over a base metal core).
Colligo ergo sum
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