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SBA $1 - 1981-S - Strange Error - A Little Help?

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 Posted 10/10/2016  5:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cwbatx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi. I'm new to the community so please be patient. Nice to be here.

I have a 1981-S SBA dollar and there is a very strange strike/planchet. You will need to view the photo's I have attached so I can explain what I see. The first image is a photo close-up of the error I am curious about. The second a poor hand drawn card to help me explain. The last two are normal obverse and reverse photos.

If you look at the hand-drawn photo I can explain best. The black "arc" is under a lot of dirt and looks like it's leaving her eye. The purple "arc" leaves the space between her nose and upper lip. Lastly, the lighter blue "arcs" leaving her lips cannot be seen without a good lens. They run parallel to each other and may have three legible letters. I think the may be "TON" but it is wildly difficult to see (it need to be at a specific angle and even the tough.)

Has anyone ever seen anything like this? Please know I greatly appreciate your time and thoughts on this. Sry for the long post.

Chris

SBA-$1---1981-S---Strange-Error----A-Little-Help?

SBA-$1---1981-S---Strange-Error----A-Little-Help?

SBA-$1---1981-S---Strange-Error----A-Little-Help?

SBA-$1---1981-S---Strange-Error----A-Little-Help?

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 Posted 10/10/2016  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cwbatx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BTW: I did not clean it (as much as I'd love to.) I found it in the condition it's in. Thx again.
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 Posted 10/10/2016  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Your coin is simply stained from environmental damage, nothing more to it than that. Are you sure it is a 1981-S? S-Mint business strikes were struck for 1979 and 1980 but the 1981-S was only available in Mint Sets so it would be an extremely difficult coin to find in the wild.
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 Posted 10/10/2016  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears that it just has some toning. Nothing special, but if you like it, keep it.
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 Posted 10/10/2016  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
biokemist6, the US Coin Facts on this site shows that nearly 3.5 mil. circulation strikes were produced with the S MM in 1981.
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Thank you for your quick replies. I am certain it is a 1981-S. If I look at it through a 16x loop, I am fairly certain it is a "type 1" "S". Also, the arcs are raised from the coin. The clear one doesn't seem to be just dirt (not being contrary, just trying to explain what I see.) Though, the dirt circle on the obverse seems to be just that. It look like she was struck over whatever it is...

Chris
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I can't be certain but since the arcs are raised and there appears to be dirt -- it is possible that there is a foreign substance that hardened on the coin -- like glue or old machine grease.

In your first post you wrote that there appeared to be letters in one of the arcs. I wonder if those are just impressions embedded in something glue-like.

You could try soaking the coin in pure acetone to see if anything comes off . Or you could risk damaging the coin and give it a poke with a tooth pick. Not sure I'd do that unless I didn't care about the coin anymore.

There's no harm in hanging onto it.
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I really want to clean it but we've all heard Rule #! - Never clean a coin...I suppose I could try. I was thinking about electrolysis. I tested it once on another dirty SBA coin. Worked great, but don't want to get slammed for cleaning if it has any value. Then again, if I don't clean it a bit there's no way to tell what it is. Argh. :) Any thoughts?

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 Posted 10/11/2016  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kinda resembles a big thumbprint.
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biokemist6, the US Coin Facts on this site shows that nearly 3.5 mil. circulation strikes were produced with the S MM in 1981.

Buddy, if you look in the RedBook you will also see that mintage but with a b. And when you check out what the b means it says "Issued only in Mint Sets".
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 Posted 10/11/2016  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Conder101, thanks for the correction.
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 Posted 10/11/2016  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Using pure acetone is not going to reduce the value of the coin, just do a search on the forum for acetone cleanse or bath and you should get the correct method to do this.
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