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New-To-Me 1974-1978 Proof Sets With Surprises, Good And Not So Good.

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Some random seller had a few 70s proof sets listed for $4 each with $3 combined ship so I tossed out $4 bids and won 5 of the sets. This was 100% sight unseen, no pictures, but the sets I won were 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, and 1978, so if nothing else, I won them for the Ikes.

That being said, one was a very pleasant surprise, two were great (1977 and 1978) and two were not so pleasant -- the 1975 has beautiful rainbow toning on the cent, but the 1974 Ike/Quarter, and 1976 quarter, have some kind of bizarre toning or mildew or damage or .. I don't know what it is, affecting various coins. So I thought I'd post the Ike here and see if anyone had any ideas as to what's going on and if this is toning from the holders or environmental damage from mildew/water/etc.

The 1975: The whole right obverse of Abe is completely rainbow toned and really pretty, but hard to photograph. A definite winner. However, the reverse of the Ike has a hazy golden-gray kind of toning that seems to absorb the luster...?

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The 1974: Everything looks mostly decent, but on the reverse, Ike has a huge nasty white-gray-something that is blocking out part of the legend. But when the light hits the area directly below there (south, so to speak) there is a distinct area of sharp rainbow toning. This is the one I'm most curious about -- what could have caused this? I've never seen one "go bad" in the holder like this - haze, yes, but whatever's on there seems to be eating the reverse. The same gray blotchy junk is on the quarter, obverse, to the left side. It doesn't look like any kind of toning I'm used to seeing. Could it actually be on the holder, and not the coins?

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Thoughts appreciated.
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 Posted 10/12/2016  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My two wild guesses are:

The coins came into contact with something during packaging

OR

There is some sort of reaction to the funky red felt stuff

In reality I think I am way off on these guesses. The only time I have seen toning like this (I'm not even sure if toning is the right word) is on some 1979 SBA dollars.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These sets are not air tight, so anything is possible. Overall a good deal, I think. I would not be afraid to crack these open and see what acetone may do for those peculiar stains.
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I was going through my world bullion last night and it almost looks like the "milk spots" on my Philharmonic and some Maple Leaf coins.

But is it a nice set and I love the toning on Abe!
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 Posted 10/13/2016  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brandonflanagan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I almost wanted to say milk spots in a couple cases but the quarter looks like not airtight and it chose path of least resistance to the coin
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