Looking For ID Help With Unknown Medieval/Crusader Silver

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Paul Bulgerin Pillar of the Community United States 3098 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 12:22 pm I just purchased a group of six unidentified small Medieval/Crusader silver coins. I've been able to attribute three of them, but the others have me completely puzzled. I spent last night researching online and don't have a clue about them. Here is the first. The diameter is 17 mm. and the weight is .65 gram. I'm not sure if my photos show the coin right-side-up or upside-down or some variation of the two. Thanks for any help! Paul Bulgerin Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16868 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 7:32 pm The large "S" indicates to me that it is from the Italian state of Siena. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 7:50 pm Reminiscent of anonymous issues of Antioch...this is from the "Principality of Antioch 1098 - 1268" chapter of "Coins of the Crusaders": Report this Post to the Staff
Paul Bulgerin Pillar of the Community United States 3098 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 7:58 pm Bob L., Thanks for the information. My coin is similar, but not the same, as you noted. I'll do some more research now that I have an idea what I'm looking at. Paul Bulgerin Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34443 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 8:03 pm @bob, I don't think that I've ever questioned your work before, but I gotta side with Sap on this one. On the OP's second image, starting at about 1 o'clock, the letters are S E N A V E I V S. That, plus the S in between two colons, suggests Sienna Italy to me. In looking at Biaggi, the only denaro or grosso that I can find with a backwards S is a denaro from the latter half of the 8th century and is attributed as Biaggi 2534. However, if that backwards S is a unlisted variation, then this coin could date up to about 1266 AD. By the way, until I read your replies, I was stuck on thinking that the coin was early French Feudal... "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Edited by Spence 10/25/2016 8:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 8:08 pm Yep, was just about to upload this...Sap got it right: Report this Post to the Staff
Paul Bulgerin Pillar of the Community United States 3098 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 8:27 pm THANK YOU! I just finished searching CNG's website for "reversed S" and "retrograde S" and didn't come up with anything. I have another mystery coin I'll post later. At least I was able to figure out four of the coins by myself. This is my first journey into the land of Crusader era silver. Paul Bulgerin Edited by Paul Bulgerin 10/25/2016 8:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34443 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 8:34 pm Quote: This is my first journey into the land of Crusader era silver. Hopefully, the first of many! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Paul Bulgerin Pillar of the Community United States 3098 Posts	Posted 10/25/2016 8:38 pm I won an auction on ebay for six little silvers. They cost me $15.60, shipping included. I've certainly enjoyed myself trying to figure out legends. I love the search to ID coins. I have a lot of experience with Romans, but, as I said, have not purchased any silvers like this before. Paul Bulgerin Report this Post to the Staff
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