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Japan Mon Coins Identification

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 Posted 11/01/2016  11:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone help ID these please?
Through a little searching, I believe the top coin is a 1728 Sendai Kanei Tsuho
Not sure on the others, they are possibly older and the figures are less clear.



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I'd have to check Hartill for the top coin, but early 1700s looks about right.

Bottom I think are Chinese song coins; my Japanese trade coins are more crudely made. Japanese coins before the 1620s were copies of Chinese coins, so attributing them is something I am still learning to do.
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 Posted 11/02/2016  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would call the first coin to be 1 Mon Shin Kanei Tsuho, Ishinomaki-sen. Which makes it dated most likely in Kyoho 13 (1728).
Also agree with Finn235 - the other two coins look to me more like original Chinese Northern Song coins: Xiang Fu Yuan Bao (1008-1016) and Shao Sheng Yuan Bao (1094-1097). More likely then their corresponding Vietnamese and Japanese Nagasaki trade coin imitations
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Thanks for that, that matches my further identification so I'm learning! Can anyone help with this country?


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Also would you recommend the hartill books on China & Japan Cash for a novice in this area? They seem to be the bible for English speakers at least.
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This one also looks like China Northern Song coin - Zheng He Tong Bao (1111-1117), seal script.
Though, it would be nice to take a look at observe and size to determine the denomination and have a rough opinion about authenticity.

Personally, am am using Google instead of Hartill :)
Not sure that it is actually that a good idea, though.
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 Posted 11/04/2016  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, that seems correct.

The reverse is quite worn I think and blank. Coin weighs 2.6g



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It seems to be a bit too light even for 1 wen type, compared to the other posted online. And the reverse seems to be worn off way more than reverse. Still, seems OK to me. Further judging lies beyond my expertise, unfortunately.
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