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1969 D LMC

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I was going through my Stash and I came across this 1969D wih a blank reverse. Anyone know how to determine the value? Thishas plastic on it alsoprotecting it



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Yep, value is 1 cent. The reverse was ground down, it is not an error as it is not possible to create a completely smooth blank side of a coin in the minting process.
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exactly.
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So how do you know when you have a blank planchet
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1st of all, a couple definitions from the glossary:

blank- The flat disk of metal before it is struck by the dies and made into a coin.
planchet- The blank disk of metal before it is struck by a coining press which transforms it into a coin. Planchets have upset rims from the milling machine, these to facilitate easier striking in close collars.

As you see, a blank and a planchet are related but different. I believe that planchets are more common than blanks. If you had a planchet, there would not be anything on either side. It cannot be one side or the other, the minting process does not allow for that.
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You need to have a TPG grade it. it may have been removed after minting?
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amac

I know you say it isn't real and you are probably right. I did a little research and it said it could be a blank if the edges are sharp. I know what Grind marks look like on metal b/c I have done a lot of grinding in my life and there are no signs of grind marks. I saw the other cent that kurt gave me the link to and you could clearly See it had been ground off b/c of the scratch marks. But if someone ground it off the went to an extreme polishing it just so someone would keep it. I know the picture isn't the clearest and I am sorry but NO scratch marks or signs it has been scratched off. Tell me how I go about getting a coin graded and I will try, b/c I have several coins I think I want to get graded. Thanks
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Ok, just a quick question--does the reverse have a raised rim exactly like the obverse?
If it does, that would be very interesting. Otherwise, it's been removed post-mint because both sides should be the same in that regard--by the "upset rim" milling process that Biokemist6 describes.
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You don't need to see scratch marks. If a sanding drum was used with 2000 grit paper, there would be scratches to a depth of about 1/2000 of an inch. That plus a polishing wheel or simple wear would eliminate the polishing marks. It's done on antique brass all the time. This one also has a depression around the date that translates into a raised portion on the reverse. This was probably created by whatever was used to grip the coin while it was being "played" with.

Also, many coins are machined very nicely , outside the mint to be used in Magician's coins. A piece like this would tuck into a hollowed out nickel to create an illusion of one coin changing into another.

This was not created at the mint.

Thanks,
Bill
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