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I found a Monroe dollar coin with a clipped planchet. My guess is it's about a 3.5/4% clip. It was taken from an original roll recently. I know it's very rare as I can't find another one, and researching this I did find an article about a few Jefferson dollars that were found.
Anyone have any idea of value of this coin? Thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It would interesting to see how the lettering on the edge looks. Any images?
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Here is a few pictures. Not the best, I can't get a close enough pic in focus for the edge.
I put it up against another coin on edge, although difficult to see, the "S" in Pluribus is struck on the right lip edge of the clip and slightly inside the clip.
This coin also has another error. The lower slightly left edge is slightly flattened. This apparently has caused a crease in the side edge almost obliterating "Trust". Or is was struck on the side edge.
Anyone have any opinions on this?
Sorry, can't seem to upload pics, why I have no idea, when I figure it out I'll put them up.
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New Member
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OK then, lets try to upload the pictures again.
Sorry folks, it appears that uploading pics on this site is rather difficult. Any help would be appreciated, or if anyone is interested and would like to give me an email address, I'll have them to you in 60 seconds after getting the post. Thanks
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Forum Dad
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Pillar of the Community
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Will, the top is most certianly a clip. The bottom is hard to tell from the pictures, but looks like a 2nd clip just catching the edge of the coin. I'm sure someone more learned than I will come along and give a better description of your coin.
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Nice fined wish it was in my roll!
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This coin also has another error. The lower slightly left edge is slightly flattened
I believe your second "error" is the "Blakesley effect" caused when a clipped planchet is stuck. I am not an expert, so I have nothing else to add, but it has been discussed here (which is where I learned the term). I'll try to search it out... |
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Edited by jbuck
03/19/2008 12:08 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks interesting. Is there any way to get a close up of the clip and the devices near the clip. It should feather down in details there. If it is created in a shop, the marks will not feather. It appears to, but the second clip mentioned in another post makes me wonder. The description of the pinched edge doesn't seem right for the Blakesley affect. I can't see the lettering in that area to see if the lettering is crimped or normal. Crimped letters could be a bad sign.
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To the last post. I appreciate your input, but there is nothing to wonder about. I personally found this last week in an original bank roll. The only manufacture was the US Mint.
I have since learned a lot regarding this error. The clipped planchet edge has distinct cut and tear lines. It has a severe Blakesley effect on opposite rim. And, the letters directly under the clip are distorted and am told that is called metal flow. So I guess it has it all.
My thanks to you all for input and help. Any idea of value? Hopefully more than ten bucks?
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin is a genuine clip. (Coin struck on an incomplete planchet) This coin may also have evidence of a second portion missing but that is hard to tell from the picture. It is more likely that it is a result of the Blakesley effect. The portion opposite the clip has been named the "Blakesley effect".
When a planchet is incomplete (that happenes when the blanks are beeing cut from metal strips) we call it a clipped planchet or incomplete planchet.
The "Blakesley effect" occurs as the blank is being prepared to become a planchet. The Blank is the piece of metal exactly as it is cut from the metal strip. A planchet is a blank that has been passed through an upsetting mill that rolls the edge and raises it a little in preparation for striking.
As an incomplete blank goes through the upsetting mill to have an edge created, the machinery encounters the area where the missing metal is. As a result there is a release of the pressure created by the upsetting mill on the portion of the coin just opposite the "clip". The part opposite the "clip" will not have a rim fully formed and will have that flat, slightly distorted look.
It is hard to price these as there will be some unknown number of these discovered. It will likely be pretty scarce as "riddlers" that are supposed to separate bad planchets from properly made ones are supposed to catch these before they are coined. When the missing portion is not huge, the planchet can still get through the riddlers.
This is not to say that this error is not a good one because the clip is average in size. This is a great coin as there should be less of these hitting the market than let's say a 2008 cent on an incomplete planchet.
The quality control and the relatively short period of time that these coins are manufactured make these very desirable errors.
Thanks,
Bill
Edited by foundinrolls
03/19/2008 2:47 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Any idea of value? Hopefully more than ten bucks?
Most definitely worth more than $10  Errors since 2000 or so are very hard to come by due to some procedural changes at the Mint. If that was a 1998 dated coin, it might be $10-20. Since it is a 2008, it will be multiples of that. Check out this link for a 3% clip on a 2007 Adams http://www.fredweinberg.com/invento....asp?ID=5076 to give you an approximate idea of value. |
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Bill, that is the best explanation of clips that I have ever read.   |
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