John Williams | Wilkinson "conder Token"

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valutarick Valued Member Netherlands 376 Posts	Posted 03/18/2008 2:50 pm Recently I purchased for round and about 50 cents each a 1785 and 1793 1/2pence sized token, presumably English, with a portrait of John Williams, looking left, and at the reverse a worker standing at a large machinery with 2 hammer shaped things above, and below the year of 1785/ could be 1783, and one definitely pinpoined as 1793. I do not have the possibility to put pics in. Does anybody have some background about them? Edited by Sap 04/14/2008 10:07 am Report this Post to the Staff

Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 03/18/2008 3:50 pm G'day, 1790s saw a lot of copper tokens made in Britain. The major manufacturer was Conder, and so his tokens are called Conders. Some people call all tokens of that era Conders, but that might cause confusion. The tokens often include the name & address of a business, and an artistic representation of their work. Other tokens were made by local government,. and these often feature public buildings. Some are political, and these have a variety of features, often satirical. Some seem to be commemorative. There are many with naval themes; and The Duke of Wellington figures on a lot, from 1813 onwards. These tokens are like time capsules. I haven't got many; they didn't cost much; but they represent a lot of history. It seems that tokens died out soon after The Great Recoinage which began in 1816. I'm not familar with the tokens which you describe. Peter in Oz Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16849 Posts	Posted 03/18/2008 9:23 pm quote: ...The major manufacturer was Conder, and so his tokens are called Conders... Not quite right, Peter. While James Conder did produce a few tokens of his own, he wasn't so much a token maker, as he was a token collector, who wrote the first catalogue of these tokens. Tokens listed in his book, and others from the same time period, are known (in America, anyway) as "Conder tokens". Wikipedia article. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
valutarick Valued Member Netherlands 376 Posts	Posted 03/27/2008 04:58 am Thanks for the explanation! Now I know what to look for and in what direction I should go. Greetings, Eric. Report this Post to the Staff
valutarick Valued Member Netherlands 376 Posts	Posted 04/13/2008 5:44 pm Goodday to your all, I began cleaning these tokens and it was revealed to me that the last name of John is spelled very incorrectly. It now shows a gentleman called John Wilkinson. I found at where this token came from by a beautiful website: https://www.broseley.org.uk/wilkfil...20tokens.htm Thank you for assisting me. Report this Post to the Staff
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John Williams | Wilkinson "Conder Token"