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Help With A 1941-S Wheat Back

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 Posted 11/25/2016  8:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Charlie512 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Am I seeing machine doubling/double strike or actual hub doubling?

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 Posted 11/25/2016  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a normal strike with in indent on one device. The 'L' on Liberty looks moved. So I feel it is PSD.
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 Posted 11/26/2016  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Charlie512 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya I'm done with this forum..... It's a joke, I don't feel like I get very accurate information.... 1- the L in Liberty can't be PSD unless it was intentionally done by a professional because it's too accurate of an indent.... And 2- the doubling on the motto are slightly rotated vs. the doubling on the date so therefore from what I already know, Machine Doubling does not do that. If my pictures aren't good enough to give some accurate information for people like me who are truly interested in this hobby and want to learn as much as possible from older generations then just say you need better photos to provide accurate information.
There's no telling how many beginning enthusiasts have thrown away something of value and/or quit the hobby because of someone who thinks they know it all and provided their incorrect two sense based on a terrible picture
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 Posted 11/26/2016  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The L in LIBERTY is PSD.

There is a high probability that this is a 1941-S DDO-002 as pictured on this page: http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...20C%20Photos

The G in the motto caught my eye and the mint mark location is an exact match on an overlay.

I think the first 1 in the date is either PSD or MD, I can't tell from the images.

If you feel this forum is a joke, then that's a big loss for you. You will not find a group of collectors more knowledgeable in the field any where on the internet.

We do not disrespect other members or the forum. If you're not happy with the advise we give you, that is your right, but it will also cost you some knowledge about coins. Every coin we find is not a million dollar find, if it were, then we everyone would have one, wouldn't they?

I hope you change your mind and stick around to learn more, but if you choose to leave, don't blame it on the advise you received here.

Coop is one of the most experienced, knowledgeable, and respected collectors I know. If he says a coin is damaged, you can bank on it being damaged. Sometimes we all miss things, that's why we work together and we all learn.

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 Posted 11/26/2016  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Charlie,if that's how you feel or you could stick around and learn from some of the best in the hobby...your choice.
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 Posted 11/26/2016  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Said cwb , Charlie you've just awakened a sleeping giant . coop is the man of all men when it comes to errors and what's not errors. you should really stick around a little longer before you make such a rash decision .
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I don't think you'll find any suggestions, advice, or valuable information anywhere else more so than here...unless you pay for it...respect the time and effort others give you about your coin...of course all are not always right..no one ever is...I've had coins on here that have received different opinions..and the one's I feel strongly about I plan on sending in to be professionally evaluated..and then post the results back on their original post...not to say "I TOLD YA SO"...but to show everyone can learn something..no matter age or experience...but being disrespectful is not a path to walk on...that will get you nowhere!
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 Posted 11/26/2016  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There appear to be signs of doubling on the date. The other issues are almost certainly PMD. Better pictures would be of assistance, namely, high-resolution shots of the entire coin, especially to diagnose possible strike vs. hub doubling on legends and devices other than the date; in the current set of photos, I do not see any evidence of strike or hub doubling on either.
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 Posted 11/26/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ya I'm done with this forum..... It's a joke, I don't feel like I get very accurate information.... 1- the L in Liberty can't be PSD unless it was intentionally done by a professional because it's too accurate of an indent.... And 2- the doubling on the motto are slightly rotated vs. the doubling on the date so therefore from what I already know, Machine Doubling does not do that. If my pictures aren't good enough to give some accurate information for people like me who are truly interested in this hobby and want to learn as much as possible from older generations then just say you need better photos to provide accurate information.
There's no telling how many beginning enthusiasts have thrown away something of value and/or quit the hobby because of someone who thinks they know it all and provided their incorrect two sense based on a terrible picture


First up "Settle down Sunshine" Spitting the dummy and "bagging" the forum won't get you anywhere.
The members here give their opinions freely and we have many very talented numismatists that can cover a huge range of different areas of numismatics.
The opinions given are "Unbiased" and are given to help other collectors learn.

Now getting back to your coin.
The "L" in Liberty does look like it has taken a hit, so PSD/PMD on that part of the coin.
I can vaguely see what appears to be some doubling or Machine Doubling on the "D" and "W" in GOD WE TRUST on the coin So better images would help a lot.

Like I said the people here are only trying to help OK
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 Posted 11/26/2016  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Charlie, you're out of line.

We're just here to help each other. Grow up and learn some manners.
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 Posted 11/26/2016  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wise up and act like someone with a little common courtesy
Not cool
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Stick around. No one likes hearing seemingly negative reviews about a coin they like, but it is how we all learn.
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Just because you do not agree does not mean you can bash this forum and the people in it. Very disrespectful, If you chose to leave, so be it, but you shouldn't plan to find a better one.
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