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201733712422

201733705647

my concerns are the missing stems on the leaves right beneath the date. it is a big indicator on counterfeit coins.



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Obverse pics please?
Missing stems are markers only for certain dates.
For these dates missing stems appear on genuine coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Those appear to be genuine coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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thanks, and is there a certain resource you use, for half dollars.
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And wouldn't the die crack(s) be difficult to reproduce?
Just curious
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A great resource is Mike Marshall, he has a book that is usually available on ebay. It supports further identification resources.

Another book is the 2015 Charlton, it has both 25 cent and 50 cent from China.
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For all counterfeits Mike Marshall has a very good cd aka nicklesguy
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The 1870 looks good to me (XF40?) For a second, I got a shock when I didn't see the LCW in the first obverse, then I realized that you posted the 1874 obverse first.
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To me, the surface finish/luster looks off. The fakes that are reproduced are copies of an actual coin, where an electronic image is taken of the coin and then transferred to a laser cutter which then makes the dies. The laser will reproduce what was actually on the initial coin, but it usually has a hard time exactly duplicating face wrinkles, hair folds/lines and the junction of the bridge of the nose. To me, they don't look quite right but nothing specific.
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IMO, They look genuine to these old eyes, but don't take my word for it.
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These coins are currently running on ebay from a Slovakian dealer. I believe these and other Canadian coins the seller has are authentic.
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They look great to me, see no problem with them.
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The fakes are indeed "clones" of real coins. The vast majority of Canadiain circulation fakes are made from dies produced by spark erosion.
A flash of light, crackle of electricity, and billow of smoke, a process much akin to the creation of Frankenstein's monster.
https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/article/842/

I don't know how the dies for NCLT fakes are produced.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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