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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Group-...AOSw44BYRL4aDon;t match any foreign coins I am aware of. Well centred, look like normalish quarters. Forgeries? I had one or two modern quarter forgeries I passed on to Nickelsguy a few years ago. Seem like they might be more of the same?
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I believe that they are contemporary counterfeits. Was a busy era.
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The RCM minted Barbados 25c coins in 1973-1981 and 1985, on 5.6 gram, 23.6 mm Cu-Ni planchets. They would have been struck in full collar on a softer metal (Canadian 25c coins were 23.88 mm), and probably looked like normal coins in circulation. The RCM also minted New Zealand 10c coins in 1978-1982 and 1985, on 5.66 gram, 23.62 mm Cu-Ni planchets. The 1984 could be a planchet from either of those batches, it is not uncommon to find off-metals errors from adjacent years of foreign coins. These look like they could be legit off-metal errors to me - albeit, heavily circulated. The XRF would shed some light on these... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I totally missed the Barbados and New Zealand coins. I guess they could be foreign.
But the strangely heavy circulation makes me suspicious. Seeing coins this heavily worn & dirty is unusual. Looks to me like someone was trying to disguise something. Circulated cupro nickel coins (like say UK coins 1948 - 1966) tend to wear evenly without a lot of pitting, scratching etc.
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I have 10c from the 1970s struck on Barbados planchets... they look just like normal circulated dimes, but are not magnetic... I suspect folks had no idea these were off-metal. Chances are, these were found by coin roll hunters who use large magnets to go through boxes of 10c and 25c rolls, looking for silver coins.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Genuine off metal strike genuine coins are very to extremely rare. Out of curiosity, I may get around to do an in depth Google search, to find genuine off metal versions of these, just to prove that these types with these dates actually exist. If they do, I would expect to see them up for public auction, and definitely not on ebay. I would definitely need to look at these 'in hand' first, before thinking about buying them. My 'gut' feeling says: 'Push yourself away from these with a barge pole'. or 'Any interest in these has just been cancelled'. That does not do anything in terms of correction, for the possible misdescription of what is being offered. My bad.  |
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SPP;re pure nickel pitting. I find many nickels,dimes and quarters that are pure nickel when underwater detecting with occasional pitting and some that are pitted beyond recognition. It's to do with the ph value of either the water and or sand/gravel/mud they are laying in. Most nickel coins I find in the Rideau are highly pitted. The pitting is generally nore so on the side that's facing up. Many that look like the one on the ebay link. My only question on that one would be the 3 rust spots, perhaps there was small pieces of iron on that one if it was a detecting find. |
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I believe these are real errors but it's the years that all kinds of much cooler errors can be found
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Listing ended by seller at 10:04
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I suggested to the seller to contact SPP via ebay to be sure. |
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First-hand knowledge of this type. I was not the seller but I owned a convenience store in Montreal from 1985-9 where 4 of these coins were found inside one of the video games when the vendor came to collect. Two of them had a piece of tape on them which meant they were dangled in the machine to get free games. Lightweight cheap metal (not aluminum-it goes black in spots) matte slightly uneven finish, that looked exactly like they used the real dies, until I learned about this kind of counterfeit on internet coin sites.
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12/13/2016 02:10 am
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TerryT ... welcome to the site. It's been a few years since I've seen or read your postings on any site. Was CCRS the last time? I'm in Burl .. guess who?
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12/13/2016 06:49 am
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 TerryT to CCF... your handle is familiar to an old CCRS one... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Hi Bill, and other former CCCS posters. I was suspended from this site for 6 months for being a little too sarcastic in one of my posts. I have a few earlier posts here from that time as Terry-T. Tried many times to re-register after the 6 months but it always said my password was incorrect even after going through all the resetting. I have been browsing this site since and finally got in using another email address. It will be tough but I'll be gentle this time around.
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