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2011 Cent Doubled Die?

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 Posted 12/10/2016  02:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Duffalluff to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this earlier today.
Sorry about the subpar images.

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 Posted 12/10/2016  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djay1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better pictures are needed, but from what I see, it looks like you have one!
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 Posted 12/10/2016  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like machine doubling/die chatter, No premium
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 Posted 12/10/2016  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djay1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see Machine Doubling. I see extra thickness and notching. Maybe WDDO-007?
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 Posted 12/10/2016  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the right sides of LIBERTY you can see the reduction of the devices after the coin was struck. If it were hub doubling with notching, the devices would be enlarged. The notching is from an overlap of the hubbing process. Leaving the device enlarged because of doubled devices.
Here is an example of machine damage probably caused during ejection that damaged the tops of some devices, and not damaging others. Note compared with a normal coin, the devices are the same size, but the MD makes a mark on some devices and on the right side of the MD get stronger, like on your coin.
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Hub doubling should enlarge the devices, because the notching is caused from a double set of devices by the hub:
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Note how the spread between the hub process left the devices notched, making them wider.
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Note the spread on this one between the two hubbing that enlarged the devices.
Here is how LIBERTY would be enlarged, without notching showing a wider device.
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2014 cent.
So while it can look like notching, unless there is a spread included, it may not be a doubled die. On your coin it looks similar to the the 'ejection doubled' on just a few devices. the devices will all be affected similar on a doubled die. On MD than can vary just like they did in the side by side I posted.
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 Posted 12/10/2016  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But taking a second look at your coin, focus on the bottom of the devices. That looks more like a doubled die, than the tops of those images. Try taking other images on that area. Getting more devices if possible in the same image. I noticed on the third image you posted, the bottoms look like other doubled dies I've seen. So you may have an example that on the tops of the devices it is MD, and on the bottoms of devices it is a doubled die. (good thing I took a second look) Similar to this die:
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds

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 Posted 12/10/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duffalluff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top is a reflection from the light source (flashlight) horizontally, pointing down the coin.

I'll try to take some better pictures when I'm done working.

Thanks for all the replies!

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 Posted 12/10/2016  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes we get used to think above the LIBERTY and forget the bottom of LIBERTY can be affected as well. If I hadn't taken a second look I would have probably missed that, because the interest was all about the top of the devices.
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 Posted 12/10/2016  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duffalluff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, here are a couple more pics, I think this is as good as I can get it.

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IMO this coin is a hub doubled die. There is distortion and notching. Even though there is MD, I can see that this is a doubled die
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 Posted 12/10/2016  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duffalluff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweet!!! First one, lol!

Thank you everyone for looking at it and giving me some opinions, this is a really great community.
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