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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I purchased this Chinese coin today under the impression that it is genuine. I weighed it and it weighs in at 26.9 grams. It should weigh 26.4 grams. Is there any chance that it is still genuine and some explanation can be made for the weight? ALSO can you see anything obviously wrong with it? Almost forgot, it is not magnetic.   Thank you for your input. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Flat strike, little division between elements and fields, monotone color highlighted in recesses by black which is typical of fast faking a tone.
I wouldn't buy it.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Looks a bit off - there is lots of detail on the ear and hair but the epaulette is nearly worn flat.
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Valued Member
Japan
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The weight is acceptable and the hair is worn enough.
If you are unsure, measure diameter/thickness/specific gravity.
Also, take pics of the edge.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks everyone for your responses. @bungle I will be bringing it to a friend with an XRF. I was just trying to figure if it was even worth checking. I thought the weight was a deal breaker. Here is a pic of the edge, though it is not a great picture.  Edited by BigSilver
12/12/2016 12:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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UPDATE:
For anybody who was paying attention to this.
My friend's machine, (i think it is called an XRF) says that this is .930 silver. He tells me that the machine only tells the surface and that it could be a plate. Either way, aside from the really off chance that an incorrect planchet was used- this coin is a FAKE.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I'm leaning towards genuine. Hard to tell from the edge - poor focus. Note that despite what many would say about the weight - the tolerance level was simply poor. I own four examples and their weight are all over the place. Of this particular type, they are 26.61, 26.84, 26.75, 26.75g. I've got no idea where you got the reference weight of 26.4g but I'm certain the technical weight is meant to be at 26.7g which is close to the example you've got.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Gxseries-
Did you see the update that an x-ray says that this is .930 purity. It should be .890. Do you think that is possibly explainable as well? I am asking because I plan to go back to the guy who sold this to me. I want to be certain before I claim counterfeit. (I know that he will take it back regardless, but I want to tell him if it is certainly not genuine)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I cannot claim with certainty that high silver purity is a sign of counterfeit. I do not have such database available on me to confirm that theory.
This is an era where the Chinese mints had significant trouble trying to establish a standard. Different mints had different standard and it is well known that Gansu mint was striking such coins at lower silver purity level. In fact, it had to have a special sign with Gansu as it had permission to strike coins at 70% (?) purity level. Needless to say, these coins were traded at a discount back then - no merchant would accept it at full face value.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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United States
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Thanks gxseries.
Your knowledge greatly exceeds mine in this area, and probably in many others as well.
What would you set is a sure way- is there is one- to determine this coins authenticity?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I'm not the best person for this - kondi at China-mint.info would be able to tell you in higher confidence. Here is a post he made a while back - a huge amount of variety just for one particular coin http://China-mint.info/forum/index....topic=4460.0TPGs still get stung with grading such coins once in a while so my best bet is to take advice at face value. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Posted 12/12/2016 05:45 am
