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Franklin Mint History Of The US 1980 Error

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Hello everyone,

I stumbled across your community while looking for information about some medals I found in the effects of a relative and I was hoping some of you coin gurus could provide me with some information about a medal I have.

The set I found is from The Franklin Mint and is part of the History of the United States collection. The medals are bronze and the set is for 1976-1985.

It seems that there was an error in the Reagan medal from 1980 where the month November was spelled Novemer. I also found an additional medal with the set that was a replacement with the correct spelling of November and some letters relating to the issue.

I'd like to apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge on the subject and this post if I just managed to miss the information in my searches. I don't know anything about coins or commemorative medals but hopefully you guys can help me out!

When I searched for information on Google I couldn't find any about this error at all. It is possible that I might not have been using the correct key words to get the results I was looking for but I came up with nothing. Even the listings I looked at on ebay didn't mention the error medal.

My main question is, is this error medal rare or just simply not a big deal so people don't speak about it? I'd like to know more on it's history and hopefully list it somewhere so someone who collects can enjoy it. I'd hate to see the set continue to sit in a box in my office as I am not a collector myself.

Here are the pictures that show what I am talking about and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!

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 Posted 12/12/2016  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpaceMaNy0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that is pretty cool. I definitely would have kept the error and bought the replacement.
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 Posted 12/12/2016  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting.

From the way the letter is written, it looks like all of them were struck incorrectly, therefore it would not have been rare. However, it depends on how many were returned for exchange and what they did with the returns. It could be that the actual survival rate for this error is much lower.
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How many do you have in this set? Do you have the box that each set slides into?

Checking ebay there are lots of these listed and some have sold. The 200 piece sold for $100 + postage.

Franklin mint is "self made" collectibles but there still are a few buyers.
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Thanks for posting this interesting story!
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 Posted 12/12/2016  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigchip22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not worth the invest just junk metal price
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 Posted 12/13/2016  03:13 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's funny how the letter says "They Discovered" the error. I don't think these are junk metal (actually, no metal is junk and can be sold to recyclers for cash).

I think, at best, this is worth holding onto and passing down for posterity.
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Thanks for all of the responses and the information!

This was the only set I found so I'm far from the full 200 set that a few people have listed on ebay. My main reason for the inquiry was to get the story of the medal since I found it interesting that I wasn't able to locate more information on it myself.

In reference to the way the letter was written, it does seem like this error was sent out to everyone who was receiving this set but I'd love to know the numbers of how many were distributed and its survival rate. That and how long it took them to notice the error after it got sent out. If only the letters were dated!

I'll reach out to some family members today to see if they have information on how we got the set and I'll let y'all know what I find!
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Yes, it would be interesting to know more of its family history.

For what it is worth, I have a couple Franklin Mint sets that I have inherited. They may not worth a lot, but to me they are priceless for sentimental reasons.
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I agree very interesting. Thanks for posting!
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"...to me they are priceless for sentimental reasons."


Always a good reason
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Hey everyone, sorry it's been a few days but I wanted to finish off the story for anyone still interested.

I spoke to some family members and it seems we acquired the set when my grandfather was settling the estate for a friend who had passed. My grandfather ended up getting a lot of her belongings and and it was in one of the boxes. Turns out, her late husband was a coin collector so he had the full set at one point but we believe it got split up during all of the moves and when someone sold off some of the collection.

For now, I'll probably keep the set. It traveled through a lot of hands to get to me and I enjoy the story. Thanks again to everyone who stopped by this topic and gave their input. This might be the start of my own coin collection!
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Thanks for posting this update and

We hope you stick around!
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Thank you for the update and I am glad you will keep the set. It has a good story to tell.
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I thought I'd offer a bit of background information that might be of some interest.

The Franklin Mint issued a set of 200 medals under the name "History of the United States" between 1966 and 1977. The series included one medal for each year from 1776 to 1975 with each depicting a key historical event from the given year. The medals were issued in sterling silver (0.925 fine) and in bronze. As noted above, it is very common to find these sets (or partial sets) listed on ebay; the bronze sets typically appear more often than the silver sets.

The set you have was not part of the original 200-medal series. It was a follow-up / extension set that was issued years later and was not nearly as popular with collectors as the original set - medal collecting, in general, entered a "cooling period" after the flurry of releases leading up to and during the US bicentennial era.

As others have noted, it is difficult to estimate the true rarity of the Reagan error medal. I would suggest that the majority of owners of the set kept the medal with the error vs. sending it back for replacement. Even casual collectors assume that there will be future value in an error piece.

Unfortunately, the collecting of Franklin Mint sets is not a "hot" area these days. There are some great FM sets out there that consistently draw enough collector attention to merit a numismatic premium, but the vast majority of silver sets are hard to sell at prices above bullion value; dealers typically offer well below bullion value for these sets. Bronze sets often require price points in the $1 to $2 per medal range to sell.

I don't have access to mintage figures for your set, but I would estimate that fewer than 10,000 sets were sold. While every set originally included the Reagan error, I believe it is fair to assume that only a portion of the original sets were updated with the corrected medal. I would therefore suggest that the error medal for Reagan is actually the more common of the two and that it would not command much of a premium in the marketplace among knowledgeable buyers (I can't make the same assumption for the uninformed, however, as they often pay crazy amounts for things!).

Hope this was somewhat helpful!


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