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Die dents or die gouges? I have seen more then a few. John1  |
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 I found one like that about a year ago and posted. Think the term was die dent. |
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I have no doubt that they are die dents or die gouges. What caught my attention is that the two of them are virtually identical - as if they were made by some tool, or perhaps by striking an empty anvil die area (if that were possible).
11997755, do you happen to know the thread where you posted?
John1 do you happen to have photos?
If all these instances are basically the same, it would indicate a possible source, it seems to me?
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These are very similar and both sets on the obverse. There MUST be an identifiable cause! (Thanks for looking!)
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I've seen a couple more while searching. Maybe it is something striking the side of the die at some point in it's life.   |
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Maybe it is something striking the side of the die And I want to know what the something is. This is too repetitive not to be the same thing happening over and over, don't you think? If you find any other examples, please let me know! |
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Pete, Sorry I have no pics,i don't save the coins. If you want to know for sure contact Mike. John 1 |
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Edited by coop
12/16/2016 5:00 pm
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Thanks, coop. I have no doubt at all that they are die dents. My question is: With so many of them looking so similar, the implication is that the same thing (tool, minting equipment, striking set up, etc.) is causing them repetitively. What is causing them? Maybe we will never know, but I am compelled (read: "Obsessed") to ask the question! |
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My guess is the contact between two dies when moving them. Both are hardened steel. If they were dropped on each other and the edge of any side of the die, could leave the mark on the die face.
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My guess is the contact between two dies when moving them. Both are hardened steel. If they were dropped on each other and the edge of any side of the die, could leave the mark on the die face. I am not convinced, because these marks do not seem random. Two dies dropped on each other should leave more random marks. Many of these are similar:  A very shallow angle to the rim Frequently in pairs Similar shape |
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I think I found the (an?) answer! Go to this link and scroll down to "Rim Burr" and see the third photo. http://www.lincolncentforum.com/ter...gy-list-q-r/Quote:
Rim Burr: This is a form of pre-strike damage to the rim caused by the feeder finger, whereby a portion of the proto-rim is "sliced" or "gouged" up and subsequently struck into the coin face. The burr can be still partially attached to the rim, or can be completely detached and struck into the coin face in any location and orientation. Many of these are being found recently on shield cents. Photos courtesy of forum member Jacob. |
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Not so sure Pete. Most (possibly all) of the ones I have seen are twin "gouges". The burr looks singular.
That does look what they are though. I hoping to find another one. Whenever I do I will post on this thread.
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