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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I really, really wanted this one tonight. Don't know if I will ever see one like this again.
1783 Washington Unity States
     IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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CCF Advertiser
United States
1533 Posts |
I can recall many such defeats at auction. Its part of choosing to buy this way and take advantage of the opportunities to grab a deal. Someone else just wanted it more this time.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11881 Posts |
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Moderator
 United States
56855 Posts |
There is 6 or 7 on the bay right now. John1 
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11881 Posts |
Thanks Bobby. They don't quite look like this one. The only consolation would be if the one I lost out on was fake or doctored.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Valued Member
Canada
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Edited by OttawaVoyageur 12/16/2016 7:52 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11881 Posts |
Yup. That one's pretty close. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4416 Posts |
@numismatic_student ... IMHO, the $200 realized for your "one that got away" was too high a price to pay. It's damaged and has been harshly cleaned; and, maybe worth half the price it fetched. I just sold a decent G-VG Unity for $100; being worn but problem-free. If this is an issue that you plan to keep for many years, I'd humbly suggest that you seek out a problem-free, VF specimen in the $300-$400 range. I passed on an XF at $450 last year.
Out of curiosity, what is there about this Unity issue that calls out to you?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11881 Posts |
ExoGuy, I like the aesthetics of this coin in spite of the severe damage to one side. It is also not the chocolate brown of every other example. I have placed a lot of copper coins in solvents and they never come out with the even, unmarked surface of this coin. I had some concerns about authenticity, but was more than willing to risk it. As an aside, I purchased another coin from this seller, posted in the grading section, and that one is fake according to a member there. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1963 Posts |
Why would you want such a harshly scrubbed coin?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11881 Posts |
I don't agree with your assessment that it is harshly scrubbed. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1005 Posts |
It looks harshly cleaned to me as well. You could easily make any chocolate brown example look like that with some work and disregard for following generations of collectors.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4911 Posts |
if it was opposite day i'd call it original surfaces..all kidding aside, this coin is harshly cleaned, lots of hairlines can be seen and an unnatural color..you dodged a bullet I think.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Looks like I may have dodged one bullet and stepped in front of another. This seller also had a 1877 IHC and a 1916-D merc for sale today. Avoided bidding on those because it was more of a gamble than I was willing to take. Those coins had many bidders. http://goccf.com/t/275966
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 12/16/2016 11:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin was scrubbed with a wire brush of some sort. You can see the striations on the coin's surface in the seller's pictures. Feel good that you dodged a bullet.
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