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Identifying These Ancient Greek And/Or Roman Coins

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So as an early Christmas present I inherited an assortment of world coins (more on that in a later post) from a late family member, and to my amazement and surprise I discovered what appear to be three ancient coins. I focus on US coinage and only own one other ancient, so I am clueless as to how to identify these coins. They might not be worth much, but their sentimental value is priceless to me. Any help IDing these coins would be greatly appreciated! Let me know if these pictures are not sufficient (the third coin I uploaded two different angles due to its damage). I'm unsure of their orientation. Merry Christmas everyone!!

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 Posted 12/24/2016  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what size are they?
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In order they are approximately 31mm, 30mm, and 29mm. I am without a ruler in my travels so I used an online ruler and placed the coins on my laptop screen. I measured a quarter and it appeared accurate, but the measurements may be a mm or so off.
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 Posted 12/25/2016  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, first one looks like a republican roman semis, with Saturn on the obverse and the prow of a ship on the reverse.. the reverse sort of looks strange, but its probably real

2nd 1st century roman coin.. Agrippa maybe?


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 Posted 12/25/2016  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Second coin is actually Galba, LIBERTAS PVBLICA reverse.

Maybe a dupondius but here is a sestertius so you can see the type
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I'll concur with Galba on the second coin... it's rough, but coins of his are always in demand, since he was in power for only a few months. Nice find!

Last one is tough... I am leaning toward Vespasian based on the shape of the head. Titus also looked about the same. Or, if I am misinterpreting what I am seeing, it could be Agrippa or Germanicus.
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The first coin is a Roman Republic Semis, Bust of Jupiter and ship prow.
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Thank you so much everybody for your help! I've gotten more accurate measurements. The first is 29mm on the obverse and 26mm on the reverse. It's about 3mm thick. Is there any way to date this coin? The second is 27mm vertically (measuring from edge above bust to edge below bust) and 26mm horizontally (measuring from edge left of bust to edge right of bust). I can read Galba as several have mentioned. How can I tell if it is a dupondius or a sestertius? The third is 26.5mm and on the obverse at 9 o'clock I can read maybe EAD or ERD. The E could possibly be an L or a sigma. I can also make out a pointed nose clearly at 9 o'clock on the bust. At 12 o'clock I can read either OC or OF, then an illegible letter, then PAV(?). Any pointers to determine the ruler and denomination? Below are some newer and hopefully better pictures. Sorry that the obverse and reverse images aren't the same size.
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It's difficult to say from what time period the Roman Republic is from. I'd say circa 200 - 150 BC. Here is link that might help you with a better date. http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/crawford1.html
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It's difficult to say from what time period the Roman Republic is from. I'd say circa 200 - 150 BC. Here is link that might help you with a better date. http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/crawford1.html

Thank you echizento for the info and link! I looked through all the lists and the only one that matches the description is Crawford 41/6e. When I went searching for images, however, it does not look like my coin. From what I can tell, on the obverse is a laureate head of Saturn facing right with S behind, and on the reverse is the prow of a ship facing right with S above and ROMA below. Am I missing something extra on the design, or is there another Crawford number that would fit this specific variety?
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Just want to give this a bump in hopes of learning some more
For the first coin:

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From what I can tell, on the obverse is a laureate head of Saturn facing right with S behind, and on the reverse is the prow of a ship facing right with S above and ROMA below. Am I missing something extra on the design, or is there another Crawford number that would fit this specific variety?

For the second coin, how do I identify the denomination? I can't seem to find another Galba with a left-facing bust. It is 27mm vertically (measuring from edge above bust to edge below bust) and 26mm horizontally (measuring from edge left of bust to edge right of bust).

For the third coin:

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The third is 26.5mm and on the obverse at 9 o'clock I can read maybe EAD or ERD. The E could possibly be an L or a sigma. I can also make out a pointed nose clearly at 9 o'clock on the bust. At 12 o'clock I can read either OC or OF, then an illegible letter, then PAV(?). Any pointers to determine the ruler and denomination?

Thank you everyone!
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Bumping this thread to hopefully get some more answers to my questions in the above post
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Ancients are not like moderns. A lot of stuff is undocumented.
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Ancients are not like moderns. A lot of stuff is undocumented.

Of course, I completely understand, and I thank everyone for their earlier opinions. I know only what I've learned about ancients from this forum The few questions I have, however, I believe are answerable questions based upon those asked by others on the forum.

For the first coin, am I missing something extra on the design? I see on the obverse is a laureate head of Saturn facing right with S behind, and on the reverse is the prow of a ship facing right with S above and ROMA below. For the second coin, does anyone have any pointers to help identify the denomination? Similarly for the third coin, any pointers to determine the ruler and denomination?
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for the second coin , check the weight : sestertius=20/30 gr - about 35 mm , dupondius 11/15 gr - about 29 mm, as : 9/12 gr - about 27 mm . albert
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