CDN Reporting New 1872-S Half Dollar Fake

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panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18654 Posts	Posted 01/07/2017 08:54 am At the recently concluded Houston Money Show, CDN confirmed the existence of a new and extremely deceptive 1872-S Liberty Seated half dollar. Although we will describe the discovery and the subsequent investigation in the March 2017 issue of the Gobrecht Journal, we did not want to wait until then to publicize this new counterfeit. There are now five of these known and more will surely appear in the meantime. They are good enough that two of them have already fooled the major grading services. Four of the counterfeits sold on ebay in August 2015, October 2015, March 2016, and August 2016. The fifth appeared at auction this past summer, and may have been the second or third example from ebay (but that isn't known). Be on the lookout for this new counterfeit! If any of you see additional examples, the LSCC would be interested in hearing about them. If you can provide the time frame in which you see them, and the source (e.g., ebay, auction, local dealer, show, etc.), that would be very helpful. Please notify us at the LSCC email address, lscc@lsccweb.org. Thank you! Although there are numerous die markers that we used in the investigation, the key pick-up points to detect this counterfeit are the following (and seen in the photos below): High and very small S mintmark (this size/style mintmark does not appear until later, in 1875) Die gouge next to the first T in TRUST. Edited by panzaldi 01/07/2017 08:55 am Report this Post to the Staff

numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11880 Posts	Posted 01/07/2017 10:12 am Thanks for the update pan. I am looking at halves and this is very helpful! IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com Report this Post to the Staff
08Blond Valued Member United States 64 Posts	Posted 01/07/2017 5:59 pm Anybody ever get a slabbed coin that turned out to be fake? Did the TPG honor their guarantee? Report this Post to the Staff
bobby131313 Forum Dad United States 24153 Posts	Posted 10/31/2017 3:13 pm Hmmmm......... Mint mark looks high and small right? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1872-S-Sea...272908576114 Shop CCF Members on eBay. Report this Post to the Staff
ZenFE99 Valued Member United States 150 Posts	Posted 10/31/2017 3:31 pm ^^^ Looks like a match for the fake Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 10/31/2017 3:56 pm This seller should be informed of the possibility. It's unreasonable to think a generalist seller like this would know of a new, high-quality fake which has only been published in one print journal. I didn't know it existed until five minutes ago. Report this Post to the Staff
bobby131313 Forum Dad United States 24153 Posts	Posted 10/31/2017 5:10 pm Just heard back from the LSCC Education director. This is not the high quality fake but much poorer Chinese fake. Reported. Pics for posterity Shop CCF Members on eBay. Report this Post to the Staff
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