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Opinion On 1836 Capped Bust Quarter

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A perfect example. I like it at EF-40 with mega eye appeal!
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XF-45 cleaned long ago retoned. Nice coin.
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Just curious, what made you say it was cleaned long ago? My coin
dealer friend said the same thing. As a new collector, I am learning
and value everybody's input here. Thanks!
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I've always been told the halo effect around the stars means that the surfaces are not truly original. Also I'd think a completely "original" coin of this era would be darker and would have a less uniform tone.

Nice attractive coin, just not completely original surfaces.
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Thanks for the reply. That is what the coin dealer said. The halo and he thinks it was an unoriginal coin for that era. However, here is a PCGS au50 coin in a slab with the same halo. Do the grading companies give these coins some slack?



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That AU coin is original as original can be. Your EF example may have been cleaned 100 years ago but I think that it is what we call market acceptable and really a non issue on your coin. Sure, I would like it a little better if it were a tad darker, but she is what she is. A real beauty.
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The halo and he thinks it was an unoriginal coin for that era. However, here is a PCGS au50 coin in a slab with the same halo. Do the grading companies give these coins some slack?


Remember market acceptable for problem-free and "original" are two different things. Your coin probably was lightly cleaned decades ago but is in no way a problem coin as far as cleaning goes these days (i.e. Improperly Cleaned). The truth is most 19th century U.S. coins have been cleaned at some point in their lives because cleaning coins was a normal, acceptable practice in numismatics for many, many decades.

And yes, grading companies give Bust and Seated coins a lot of slack but the second piece you posted didn't need it. It is not close to Improperly Cleaned.

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Thank you BH1964. I appreciate you explaining that to me. Also, thank you everybody who responded. I am learning a lot here.
This coin was in an ICG slab @ EF40, also it states:

Browning #2
Die State III
23/4 Top 10 Pc.

What does this mean exactly? I paid $450 for the coin. Thanks!
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Love that 1834 AU-50 shown above. That is a great original coin.
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