1971-S Ike. Did I Find A Diva? With A Reverse Die Crack?

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MontCollector Pillar of the Community United States 2403 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 4:44 pm I think I may have a 1SB-402 Aka "Talon Head" here. Would like a confirmation from the community as this is my 1st Diva Ike...I think. Here is a link to Diva Page http://www.ikegroup.info/DIVA%20lis.../1SB-402.pdf Sure looks like 1SB-402 to me. What does the community think? All opinions welcome. Thanks again...Mont. Edited by MontCollector 01/09/2017 10:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff

dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 5:40 pm Sure looks like it from where I'm sitting. Congrats & great images. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189340 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 5:44 pm Looks legit to me. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCents Pillar of the Community United States 3656 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 6:06 pm Congrats Mont - really nice Report this Post to the Staff
MontCollector Pillar of the Community United States 2403 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 6:10 pm Woohoo! Thanks for the verification. The images on "The Ike Group" site aren't the clearest and wanted to confirm attribution before I posted it in the "Post an Ike" thread. Edit: Looked at reverse of coin closer and found this It is definitely a raised line, but I am not seeing this listed as as a reverse marker for this variety. Edited by MontCollector 01/09/2017 10:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 10:13 pm Actually they aren't talons. They are an area between the legs of the Eagle.: The talons would be in no where near that different area. The last image maybe a scratch on the coin? A die crack would be raised and irregular in shape. Edited by coop 01/09/2017 11:14 pm Report this Post to the Staff
MontCollector Pillar of the Community United States 2403 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 11:14 pm Quote: Actually they aren't talons. They are an olive leaf: If I understand it right, it is Called a "Talon Head" because the clash occurs between the talons. There are 2 Talon Head varieties listed for this coin. This is one which appears to be from an olive leaf in between the eagles legs. The 2nd one listed for this coin has 3 little clash marks in same area on forehead. From your overlay (thanks for that BTW) these appear to be from the feather tips on inside of eagles left leg. Quote: The last image maybe a scratch on the coin? A die crack would be raised and irregular in shape. It is definitely a raised line. I turned coin several times to make sure. Edited by MontCollector 01/09/2017 11:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/09/2017 11:20 pm I wondered exactly what it was and made an overlay. If is in the field between the legs. Clashes are on the fields of the outline of a device, not a profile of a device. The fields are the outside edge of the die. Now I know exactly where it lands. I assumed it was an olive leaf because it is flowing in that direction, but after this overlay with a match, not we know it is a different area. (just spent an hour figuring this out) I don't understand why they make such a big thing of this? A common cent clash is much larger than this. Give it a cute name and some one can unload them on new collectors. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189340 Posts	Posted 01/10/2017 11:22 am We Ike lovers will take what we can get. I would probably not buy one, but would love to find one. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
MontCollector Pillar of the Community United States 2403 Posts	Posted 01/10/2017 2:24 pm Quote: We Ike lovers will take what we can get. Ikes are hard to come by around here. The coin shops here don't sell/have too many of them. I have found more in a Pawn shop I visit looking for deals. The owner is a coin collector himself, and usually will call me when he takes in new Ikes or Morgans. I am having a hard time finding a nice clear 71-S. When I saw this one priced the same as every other 71-S in OGP I couldn't pass it up. Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 01/10/2017 3:39 pm Yeah, I don't think the name "Talon Head" was ever meant to describe the source of the clash, it merely describes the appearance or shape of the clash. I've got a 1921 Morgan dollar VAM-3O that's called "Goldfish clash" and I know it wasn't a gold fish that caused it. Report this Post to the Staff
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