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Thoughts On Toning - Walking Liberty Half

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What do you guys think about the toning on this coin?

https://coins.ha.com/itm/walking-li...ption-071515
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Proofs are very hard to photograph and display how nice they are in hand, I have seen some with toning like that in person that look hreat and some not so much... Its really a crap shoot unless you see it in-hand...

I have a question for someone with more knowledge; the grade it receives is only based on strike and contacts, correct? Toning doesn't factor, right?
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I do not care for the large black spot on obverse. I would pass on the coin.
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I have a question for someone with more knowledge; the grade it receives is only based on strike and contacts, correct? Toning doesn't factor, right?


It looks like you didn't get an answer. Start a new thread with this question. I would like to hear opinions on this too.
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Toning affects the subjective eye appeal portion of the grade. More for uncirculated and proofs than circulated coins.

I am a fan of golden toning when it is clear and even. In this particular coin it is milky and cloudy on the obverse. I would look for a more attractive example.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I don't like milky toning on proofs, I'd pass. The toning doesn't affect the grade, but I would not buy this at 67 money.
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According to PCGS grading guidelines:


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Eye Appeal is one component of grade. For coins grading above MS/PR 60, eye appeal is one of the four components of grade.
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For toning, PCGS uses seven levels of eye appeal, from "Amazing" to "Ugly".


http://www.PCGS.com/eyeappeal/

IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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01/13/2017 11:08 pm
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Personally, I find it most unattractive.
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